Thursday, August 09, 2007


Scott McLean resigns from BNP ?

We are having trouble keeping up with all the tumult in the party at the moment.
We have not had Scotts resignation confirmed yet, but the signs are, that he has.

More as we get it ............................................................

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is going to be no-one left in a bit .

JCD said...

I just heard it from someone else too. All the anti-fascist sites are full of it.

JiB said...

I see a link to this thread has been put up in Stormfront under Andrew Spence

Anonymous said...

Griffin has long wanted to get SM out, so it wouldn't be a surprise.

Soon there will be no-one left except drunks, petty criminals and psychotic thugs, ruled over by a little clique with their fingers in the till.

Hercule said...

"Griffin has long wanted to get SM out"

Is there anyone outwith his circle of sycophants and myopics who still doesn't believe that Griffin is a tool of the State? He is systematically weeding out all the decent staunch nationalists. There are so many such incidents it is evident that Griffin is working to an agenda.

CJ should be preparing himself for an attack very soon, I guess!

Anonymous said...

"Soon there will be no-one left except drunks, petty criminals and psychotic thugs, ruled over by a little clique with their fingers in the till."

And the C.U.N.T.s of course.

JiB

Pete R said...

AFAIK Scott McLean hasn't resigned from the party, but he has quit as deputy chairman and from the AC.

He recommended to Griffin that the Spence-Collett row should be resolved in an even handed manner.

Predictably Griffin refused and took Collett's side.

Philly said...

Most of this is down to Collett. It was his taunting that provoked Spence, now his losing the BNP McClean. Before that he lost the BNP Angie Clark. Plus he makes a prat of himself, and the BNP, every time theres a media camera about.

Why is he still in the BNP?

If anyone else had done all that they'd be suspected of being an infiltrator.

Pete R said...

To lose one deputy chairman, Mr. Griffin, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.

Anonymous said...

A suggestion from Bill Jax:

In the comments section of an earlier blog on this subject, it was proposed that those with criminal convictions, Hitler tattoos etc be excluded from a nationalist party.

How about the following:

A multi tier structure.

1) pay membership fee to enter
2) earn acceptance in next level via proof of good character/common sense (ie no prats like Collett)
3) earn acceptance in next level by activity, ie attendance at meetings, leafleting, licking envelopes whatever AND several years membership.
4) earn acceptance in next level by demonstrating/acquiring knowledge of party procedure, tactics, policy and the justification of those policies.

Levels 1 & 2 = registered supporters

Level 3 = voting members

level 4 = qualified to speak on behalf of party.

Achieving level 4 need not take long. Members should be positively encouraged to get to number 4 asap, but those that cannot progress should not be allowed to progress.

This would allow anyone to join and support the party, but would exclude those that would give it a bad name from decision making within the party.

Level 4: The requirements to achieve this level need not be too stringent and should not be used to keep people out. Rather, this should be used as a means to educate ALL members and it should be the goal that everyone should reach level 4.

Perhaps there should be more levels? or less?

What does anyone else think?

Bill Jax

Anonymous said...

People here are assuming that Griffin should care, he doesn't.

The BNP is about money and nothing else and we have all the evidence we need that points to just that.

Scott Mclean is a very decent man and would make a better party leader than Griffin.

Regards

Sharon Ebanks

West Mids said...

"The BNP is about money and nothing else ..."

And your departure from the BNP and your ever-increasing bitterness ever since that date has been about what exactly Sharon?

Anonymous said...

"And your departure from the BNP and your ever-increasing bitterness ever since that date has been about what exactly Sharon?"

Don’t make me laugh, I’m not bitter, I’m disgusted that I gave 6yrs to a bunch of thieving bastards and callous cunts and I’ll go to hell and back to make sure you don’t con anyone else.

Remember when you mouth it off that I am not the only one disgusted by your leader. People who try to lay the blame at other peoples feet need a check-up. The person responsible for hiring and firing is Griffin and the constitution clearly states “THE CHAIRMANS WORD IS FINAL” run off back to your psychopath in his ill fitting suit with lizard tongue.

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Regards

Sharon Ebanks


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watcher said...

The Glasgow BNP were always at the heart of British nationalism especially in the 1980's and 1990's.

They were a real power in the nationalist movement.

However since Nick Griffin got elected the Glasgow people have just watched Griffin 'water down' nationalism.

They allowed it to happen, and have basically left the movement rather than stand their ground.

They have left one by one.

shieldmaiden said...

with regards to the above post
Multi-tier system

“The assumption of the cadre model is that this small core of ultra-committed people are capable of recreating the organization's structure and ideological direction even if the current organizational form has been destroyed”.

The cadre system was I believe used back in the days of the National Front. I am not suggesting that we should go back down the Political Soldier route, because for one the whole system failed, but we can at least use some of it’s ideology.

We should have a tier system in place. We should be educated in our Nationalist ideologies before we are allowed to canvass, stand as a BNP candidate, or hold any office within the party. So I would suggest that the first year of membership should be about educating it’s members. A list of core reading should be given along with a membership card. As my boyfriend has said, “all you get when joining is a plastic card and an invitation to a buffet once a month”.

Regards Shieldmaiden

Anonymous said...

Oh you Ignorant people.

Im not a BNP and definitely not an NF supporter. However you lot are completely bonkers and will never ever carry a voice in this country because the nations people have been turned in to programmed robots by Blair and his cronies not forgetting the media. They only know what the BBC tells them so they will simply see you lot as freaks. Its so easy, I could write a 500 word essay for the BBC, reach a couple of million robots and finidh off any points you may have or agendas.

Now, while the BNP has tamed down its language THEY ARE at least trying to appeal to the thickos of this country who have to be handled with kid gloves and of course lashings of fear tactics. Were not talking radicals here, were talking about Dave and Alison who are only now beginning to notice (although their not sure) that there are problems in this country because their to busy watching Eastenders and flicking through Ikea brochures.....Yeh lets get something for the house that will make us feel much better!!, Or their to busy stuffing their fat faces with sweets crisps and pies.

The BNP has to play the game and by all accounts are beginning to look like a political party. They have certainly got the major parties and liberal globalists elite deeply worried. The establishment isnt worried about you lot and that just shows how thick you are. I know your patriotic and I appreciate that, but you do have a lot of genuine nut cases in your groups that have nothing to do with being proud of your country or its traditions. Your anarchists who would love to see a nuclear winter.

The BNP is playing the media game. Christ, they have to. If it wasnt for them we really will have no political opposition in this country. I am thankful they are gaining support BUT even then they need to tame down the language if they are to look mainstream. DO ANY OF YOU actually think none of the major parties dont sit in rooms discussing the lies they must tell to gain power. This is how it is and how it has always been. People want you to lie to them, make them feel special, and hit their conscience. So, its totally understandable why the BNP must change if they are ever to gain any kind of real power. Oh yeh, you lot will happily talk crap on forums BUT YOU WILL NEVER EVER be able to change this countries politicial agenda. Your a waste of time and completely disorganised and simply fall in to the hands of the liberals.

BTW, I currently support no political party. I write letters and amazingly seem to get politicians to take notice. If I carried on like you lot the elite will just be happy little campers reveling and laughing with delight at the peasants getting a bit upset. Do you think these people are stupid??? NO NO NO they are not. They know exactly what they are doing.

This is serious tuff, far more serious than you lot could ever imagine.

Anonymous said...

Anon said;

"The BNP has to play the game and by all accounts are beginning to look like a political party. They have certainly got the major parties and liberal globalists elite deeply worried. The establishment isnt worried about you lot and that just shows how thick you are. I know your patriotic and I appreciate that, but you do have a lot of genuine nut cases in your groups that have nothing to do with being proud of your country or its traditions. Your anarchists who would love to see a nuclear winter."


I think this guy is nuts or I will have a pint of what he has been drinking !

Anonymous said...

Bill Jax writes:

"Oh you Ignorant people..."etc

What is this person's point exactly?

It seems to me that this thread is discussing the state of the BNP and how it might be improved...

NOT whining about how politicians do not tell the truth.

Or perhaps everyone else was writing in some special language that looks like english but is in fact from another planet...called irrelevant smug...and I am too ignorant to have noticed.

"I write letters and amazingly seem to get politicians to take notice."

Wooohooo! This guy has got the cahoots!

Bill Jax

Anonymous said...

One poster suggests that the BNP is "beginning to look like a political party".

Crazy terrorists like Lecomber, violent pretty boys like Collet, crooks like Griffin, and any number of squalid back-street punch-up-artists.

Right.

Just how many votes would the party now be pulling in if these people had been got rid of a long time ago?

Anonymous said...

"This is how it is and how it has always been. People want you to lie to them, make them feel special, and hit their conscience. So, its totally understandable why the BNP must change if they are ever to gain any kind of real power. Oh yeh, you lot will happily talk crap on forums BUT YOU WILL NEVER EVER be able to change this countries politicial agenda. Your a waste of time and completely disorganised and simply fall in to the hands of the liberals."



It is because parties play games that they don't get elected.

Do you really think the general public are so dumb?

Do you really think they cannot see beneath the thin top layer of the BNP and view the shambles and inexperience of those trying to steer it?

Andrew Spence saw it and the general public see it which is why the BNP is now slowly sliding into oblivion. If the BNP lose their 7 councillors up for re-election next year you WILL KNOW what the public really thinks of them. And, if you don't know or understand what the ENTIRE public thinks of the BNP including some of its members, I'll gladly oblige and tell you.

Kind regards

Sharon Ebanks

Anonymous said...

it's like the Neo Cons. You can be a dictatorship [Saudis, Pakistan etc.] but as long as you side with them you're for freedom.

So with Griffin: you can be a neo-nazi, criminal, dinosaur, disaster, loser, weirdo, retrobate, degenerate, druggy [etc.] but as long as you back Griffin and help his money-making scheme[s] you can still be in the moderate BNP!

Rememb er the first lot of people to quit over dodgy accounts were the Freedom Party lot: hardly extremists or neo-nazis!!!

Anonymous said...

"it's like the Neo Cons. You can be a dictatorship [Saudis, Pakistan etc.] but as long as you side with them you're for freedom.

So with Griffin: you can be a neo-nazi, criminal, dinosaur, disaster, loser, weirdo, retrobate, degenerate, druggy [etc.] but as long as you back Griffin and help his money-making scheme[s] you can still be in the moderate BNP!

Rememb er the first lot of people to quit over dodgy accounts were the Freedom Party lot: hardly extremists or neo-nazis!!!"



That is so bloody true.

Kind regards

Sharon Ebanks

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