A NWN reader has asked the following question. Can anyone answer it?
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In 1973/74, Edgar Griffin, took his son, Nicholas Griffin, to a National Front meeting.
Why?
Edgar Griffin, has been a member of the Tory party since he was a teenager, and has also been an elected Tory councillor.
Wouldn’t it have made more sense for, Edgar Griffin, to take his son to a, Tory party meeting?"
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I've heard Edgar has rejoined the Tories. Anyone anymore info please ?
I'd like to ask the readers to view my blog on Edgar and the Tories:
http://nationalisttruth1.blogspot.com/2008/01/state-infiltration-of-tories-and-bnp.html
The Griffin's are a truly evil family. Money, infidelity and sexual deviance. Honesty , fidelity and Truth are alien concepts to them. A family of reptiles.
Just a another fairy story from geiffin to tell all you knobs from steve edwards onwards,well we told you all of this arch conman griffin but how you were all sucked in by the house of griffin to be spit out later when you became a bad taste to the griffin pallet.
truly a story to be told to your children.
Why would edger take griffin junior to a NF meeting when at the time it would be risking being thrown out of the tory party,edger never mentions being a member of the Monday club this is a bit strange as this would have been a less of a risky meeting to take the boy wonder to.
keith axon
If anyone studies nationalism in this country they couldn’t have failed to notice that it’s a vehicle for the Tory party.
I’ve no doubt the BNP is infiltrated with state operatives, but they’d be there looking out for those prepared to kill and maim. What interests me more is, why are the Tories joining, and already in the BNP? The BNP is essentially a working class party, and with that comes a very large sprinkling of socialism. Tories hate socialists, but what they love is the rhetoric and feelings of the working class, it acts as a gauge for the countries feelings as a whole, and unless you know those feelings you can never sniff power.
It is no coincidence then, that the BUF at its peak lost to the Tories, that the NF at its peak lost to the Tories, and that the BNP is now losing to the Tories, and more, it’s no coincidence that Edgar Griffin is a Tory, and that he made sure his son was the wrecking ball in nationalism to always favour the Tories.
Anyone want to do the timelines?
Moseley’s BUF 1931 lost to the Tories
National Front 1979 lost to the Tories
A…Nick Griffin was introduced to Nationalism in (1974) by his Tory father
B…A Labour government was elected to power in (1974 - Harold Wilson)
C…Nick Griffin became NF secretary in (1978)
D…NF defeated by Tories in parliamentary elections (1979)
E…Margaret Thatcher became PM(1979)
F…Griffin idols the Tory government years away with various scams, and a trip to see Gadaffi
G…
A very good question, I don't know the answer, but something isn't right, is it? I mean, a lifelong Tory takes his son to join the NF!
Very fishy
"Very fishy
17 July 2008 14:48"
It becomes even more fishy when you consider that the real power for British people lies in the British parliament, yet Griffin is pouring everything into the European elections where as one man, he will have no voice, and no power at all.
Nationalists should really be questioning what is going on in the BNP, any idiot should know an MP is worth 1000 MEPS.
I understand that the older Griffin had Mosleyite connections.
This is probably the case but like his son he knows which side his bread is buttered on!
Anonymous said...
If anyone studies nationalism in this country they couldn’t have failed to notice that it’s a vehicle for the Tory party.
All the political parties in this country are working for the EU.
The EU controls all the media.
"All the political parties in this country are working for the EU.
The EU controls all the media.
17 July 2008 15:03"
Yes, but the BNP pushes the Tory vote up.
People know that, Great Britain Ltd, is fucked, but when faced with electing uneducated patriots over university educated patriots, the latter wins every time.
The BNP is starved of educated men and women, and whose fault is that? Yes, Mr Griffin, who gleefully expels them at every opportunity. Griffin doesn't want the BNP to win, the BNP is meant to stay exactly the way it is untill Griffin pulls the ultimate, and sends it under like the NF.
There is a thin veil that cloaks this country. Politicians refer to it as 'Democracy' as do all other 'Public Bodies' it ensures the status quo, and an upright apple cart where no form of "patriotic extremism" is tolerated.
Nationalists, as well as, anti nationalists, are all considered extreme by the keepers of democracy, and the pro's and anti's balance each other out ensuring zero gains for either side.
Were the anti's to ever find common cause with nationalists the genie would be well and truly out of the bottle.
Griffin's BNP is really a wing of modern liberal/leftism. It hates any individual who displays intelligence
or competency and thus expels them and blackens their name.Of course Griffin feels he can easily control lumpen proletarians such as the C@@t couple.What is more; on this issue he is right.
"A family of reptiles." More accurately - a family of Jewish reptiles.
"The BNP is starved of educated men and women, and whose fault is that? Yes, Mr Griffin, who gleefully expels them at every opportunity. Griffin doesn't want the BNP to win, the BNP is meant to stay exactly the way it is untill Griffin pulls the ultimate, and sends it under like the NF."
This is very true. Steve Blake is a well educated guy, Sadie Graham has either one, or possibly even two first class degrees, Chris Beverley has a first class degree, Ian Dawson has a first class degree, and so on. First class degrees are gained by about 10% of those who attend university, which is about 40% (I think) of the young population - they are not easy to get. Even Griffin could only get a 2:2 - although in this day and age that would probably be a 2:1 admittedly.
The more educated you are, the more of a threat Griffin perceives.
Graham, Beverley (just hanging on in there I believe) and Dawson are also all very young and sensible - then you compare them with Collett and Hannam who couldn't spell 'first class degree' let alone get one, even in media studies.
Not that I can spell to good myself yet I know that for sure that something isn't right when Griffin expels and pushes out all the talented young nationalists and then promotes weasels.
If you look at the fact that Griffin will move to have leadership challenges once every 4 years, and will also demand absolute power, you know something isn’t quite right.
All other political parties are free to have challenges
All other political parties allow the membership a say in the running of the party
But, you also have to look at the fact that all other parties have shadow cabinets. People well versed in a particular area of party policy and country/world affairs. These parties have shadow cabinets because they are constantly in rehearsal for the moment they take power. Where is the BNP’s shadow cabinet? Ah yes, you can’t have one can you, because Griffin expels all the brains, and wants complete power. This can mean only one thing, the people at the top of the BNP, have no wish to have any real power, and going back to a post above mine, it’s proved by Griffin putting every effort into the European elections instead of the General elections.
BNP members really are a stupid lot!
Not true about other political parties allowing the membership a say over who becomes leader.
They all require a certain number of MPs (a very small percentage of the membership) to call a leadership challenge before a wider vote can even be contemplated.
As for the rest of the comments on here: usual mixture of ignorance and paranoia we have come to expect.
As for links between the NF and the Tories in times past: the Monday Club and NF were very close at one point and it wouldn't surprise me if a Tory Monday Club supporter went along to an NF meeting at that time (and took his son).
Likewise, the comments about freemasonry. Incidentally, there is a very good letter in the latest copy of Heritage & Destiny by 'Adam Clarke' of Filey, North Yorkshire. He draws the distinction between English and Continental freemasonry which has been ignored by most of the trolls on here.
As for Simple Simon's fishing expedition at the beginning about Griffin senior's return to the Tory party. He was expelled by IDS, who also banned the Monday Club. Such fishing tactics are worthy of a paranoid android like Simon, who thinks like a poor man's David Icke.
I feel sorry for him in many ways.
"As for Simple Simon's fishing expedition at the beginning about Griffin senior's return to the Tory party. He was expelled by IDS, who also banned the Monday Club. Such fishing tactics are worthy of a paranoid android like Simon, who thinks like a poor man's David Icke.
I feel sorry for him in many ways."
Can you explain why, Nick Griffin, has never been to a 'Monday Club' meeting then?
"Not true about other political parties allowing the membership a say over who becomes leader.
They all require a certain number of MPs (a very small percentage of the membership) to call a leadership challenge before a wider vote can even be contemplated."
But, you admit that the membership of other parties are given choice.
The BNP, is removing that choice, and dictating when they will happen.
An intelligent being joining the BNP today, wouldn't be able to challenge untill 2016, by which time the dictator known as, GRIFFIN, would have had them expelled to remove any threat.
If I were Griffin, I'd start making some friends, because what I've heard over the past 12 months, it won't be Islamic extremists that blow his socks off, it will be another nationalist very close to him who will blow his brains out. You better tell Darby to hide his guns.
Nick Griffin state sleeper ?
Street sweeper more like.
The BNP hierarchy are like all others. At the end of the day they will do anything to protect their positions, and wages.
Nationalists who are members of the BNP, and think they have joined an ideological, and principled organisation, would do well to take a cold shower, sober up, and see the light.
In all my years as a salesperson, I don’t think I have ever met another salesman like, Griffin. He carries the audience away, and makes them believe that truth is a lie, and vice versa.
The only being that comes close to Griffin, is a fictional being. Many things have been written about him, but this, is probably the best.
“His existence places humans in extreme peril.. 1 Peter 5:8”
“Be careful! Watch out for attacks from the Devil, your great enemy. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for some victim to devour.”
Satan, is also the Jewish word for a, prosecuting lawyer
Griffin, is evil.
Why did Mrs Jean Griffin (Nick's mum) stand against Iain Duncan Smith in June 2001, YET Edgar Griffin was part of IDS team standing for the leadership of the Conservative party later that year ?
Are we to suppose Mr & Mrs G senior fell out with each other and were using IDS to settle old scores between the two of them ? :-) :-) (Perhaps they had were blaming each other for why Nick had turned out a bisexual lying thieving toe rag ? )
OR could it possibly be the BNP leadership is State ? Just scratching my head a little on that one....
From Sean Gabb's article :
"Last Thursday, the 23rd August, it was "discovered" that one of Mr Duncan Smith's supporters in the Welsh Conservative Party was Edgar Griffin, whose son, Nick, is the leader of the British National Party, and whose wife had stood as a BNP candidate against Mr Duncan Smith at the last election. Mr Griffin was immediately dismissed from the campaign, and his views condemned. Even so, the result was an explosion in the entire news media that lasted through the Bank Holiday weekend, when it was supposed that most Party members would be filling in their ballot papers. Rather than an obscure official, probably unknown to the campaign team in London, Mr Griffin was occasionally described as "the" vice chairman of the Duncan Smith Campaign. Kenneth Clarke and his allies ignored Mr Duncan Smith's denunciation of the BNP, accusing him of inviting support from such people, and speculating on how many more might be unearthed."
(IDS was a eurosceptic and did actually win the leadership election. The other candidate was Ken Clarke a europhile and Bilderberger. The Establishment were trying to taint IDS with association with the BNP. The BNP is "small potatoes" in the grand scheme of things and they were obviously willing to risk their "BNP operation" for what they perceived as the "greater good" ie a europhile Tory leader. Mrs T was axed, I'm understand because of her eurosceptism. Whilst neither IDS or Mrs T's poster would appear on Nationalist's bedroom walls they did perhaps carry with them the last vestiges of anything resembling patriotism within the Conservative party)
Nick Griffin is a vile arsehole of unimaginable proportions.
If the 4 year rule is passed, members should go on strike and ask Solidarity to support them LMFAO
"Satan, is also the Jewish word for a, prosecuting lawyer"
Temple of Baal
"Likewise, the comments about freemasonry. Incidentally, there is a very good letter in the latest copy of Heritage & Destiny by 'Adam Clarke' of Filey, North Yorkshire. He draws the distinction between English and Continental freemasonry which has been ignored by most of the trolls on here."
Oh OK, so Freemasonry ISN'T Jewish?
American Freemasonry (Scottish rite etc.) is linked to English Masonry and some of the worst material re. Masonry being Luciferian comes from Albert Pike, the one-time boss in American Freemasonry.
Is "adam clarke" yet another made-up letter by the H&D editor?
Are all the masons now coming together to defend their "brethren"?
It would certainly explain the pro-Zionist and bizarre behaviour of not a few of them!
"Are all the masons now coming together to defend their "brethren"?"
I was told Rushton, and Cotterill, were at RWB speaking with Griffin in the Trafalgar tent in 2006. Would they like to confirm wether it's true?
I hate it when the anti's tell the truth
"At some point surely even the intellectually-challenged dullards who support and fund the BNP are going to start asking some relevant questions. Along the lines of "Mr Griffin, with all the effort and money we - the members - are putting into the party, and the splendid leadership you keep telling us that you are providing, why are we not only failing to win by-elections, but why are we actually going backwards in so many areas?"
http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2008/07/another-thursday-another-bad-night-for.html
"Is "adam clarke" yet another made-up letter by the H&D editor?
Yes FC, you're a good man !
and well said the comment that followed yours.
All NG's "enemies" aren't legitimate.
"I was told Rushton, and Cotterill, were at RWB speaking with Griffin in the Trafalgar tent in 2006. Would they like to confirm wether it's true?"
Since the summer of 2002 I have only met and spoken to Nick Griffin on one occasion, outside a courtroom in Manchester a few months ago.
I attended (and spoke at) the first two RWBs in 2000 and 2001, but have not attended one since then.
I suspect your correspondent is referring to the former EFP Councillor Michael Johnson, who did attend the 2006 RWB and did have a conversation with Mr Griffin.
His then council colleague Mr Cotterill was not present - needless to say neither was I.
The letter in H&D about Freemasonry was not made up. I should know: I typed it from a handwritten original. As most readers will know, H&D will (within reason) print sensible contributions from all sides of nationalist debate.
For the avoidance of doubt: I am not a Freemason and neither is anyone in my immediate family. I do know several Freemasons, both inside and outside nationalism, and have numerous distant relatives who are or were Freemasons.
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Pete Rushton at the 2006 RWB ?
I don't bloody think so !
Pete Rushton is hated by Griffin as much as I am.
The other parties get a choice over the leadership only when MPs (a tiny percentage of the membership) decide to have a contest. They call the shots and it requires a certain percentage of them to move against the leader prior to any general vote. Obviously, they have a vested interest in keeping onside with the incumbent hence the rarity of such events.
The last Labour leadership was rigged so that Gordon Brown was elected unopposed, since the two left-wing candidates couldn't muster the necessary amount of MPs necessary in order to stand against him.
Only the BNP allows this annual challenge. UKIP's leader is elected for a fixed four year term, I believe.
Simon, since you have never been married or had a regular girlfriend, it would probably not occur to you that a husband and wife might have slightly different political perspectives. When you have been canvassing have you not come across a husband and wife with different voting preferences?
Mr Griffin senior was a long-standing member of the Tory party and like most senior citizens stuck in his ways. Moreover, I get the feeling that standing Griffin mater against IDS was perhaps one of Griffin junior's political wheezes which he excels at. I blame his private education myself.
Incidentally, I have no idea whether Griffin junior has ever attended a Monday Club meeting, but why is that of relevance?
As for that letter in H&D. Here it is in full (for those who don't read H&D on here, such as FC):
"In issue 32 of H&D your correspondent Peter Johnson airs his views on Freemasonry. One factual correction I would make is to let you know that in Royal Arch masonry the sacred name of God was changed from 'jabulon' to that of the Jewish God of the Old Testament about twenty years ago.
"The movements of the radical right which originated on the continent in the first half of the twentieth century were opposed to Freemasonry as Mr johnson explains.However english Freemasonry 9as opposed to Scottish and Continental masonry) has, at grass roots level, always been patriotic and nationalistic. Alienating those patriotic and nationalistic English masons by crudely lumping them with their revolutionary, internationalist, anticlerical, continental counterparts will result in lost recruitment opportunities for the racial nationalist cause.
"In short, if you cultivated English masons at local level rather than attacking Freemasonry in general the cause would be better served and support strengthened. As a footnote, if that poor excuse for a Christian - the Archbishop of canterbury - is soft on gays but opposed to masonry that should tell us something!"
I would stick to selling badges, Gareth.
As for the BNP (and Griffin) being state: personally, I think that all depends on one's state of mind (if you know what I mean!)
Griffin always saw Pete Rushton as potential rival and thus a threat to his money making schemes.
It is quite clear to anyone who cares to see that Griffin is the British answer to the American TV evangelist 'snake oil salesmen'
"Simon, since you have never been married or had a regular girlfriend, it would probably not occur to you that a husband and wife might have slightly different political perspectives. When you have been canvassing have you not come across a husband and wife with different voting preferences?"
Never been married, but Mr Anonymous, you presume too much with regard to my relationships...
To say that husband and wife vote differently - it is true - but to (effectively) stand against each other is stretching credulity.
The British/Continental masonry is just a smokescreen.
You're clever Gri££in I wouldn't take that away from you.
I note that NWN allows you to post on here and have your arguments tested but you wouldn't allow the same courtesy on a BNP forum or indeed, if you have the courage of your convictions, use your name - unless you are ashamed of it.
Everything is a 'smokescreen' with you isn't it, Simon.
Even when it concerns stuff you know nothing or little about and someone offers a more grounded explanation.
I attempt to offer reasonable explanations as an interested party to the issues raised by the trolls, provacateurs and malcontents on here and you think I am actually Nick Griffin himself.
Rather than burning the midnight oil surfing the net in search of esoteric explanations to the meaning of life, do yourself a favour and get a good night's sleep tonight instead.
"trolls, provacateurs and malcontents on here and you think I am actually Nick Griffin himself."
How are you, Jason? Still kicking peoples heads in, eh, you fucking troll, provocateur, and malcontent. Your time, is coming, mate :)How's Lecomber?
"Everything is a 'smokescreen' with you isn't it, Simon."
Not everything is a smokescreen - but an anonymous ID certainly is.
Once again I challenge the dwindling Gri££in crowd to have the courage to put a name by their posts and acknowledge the fact that NWN allows their viewpoint to be heard.I understand that's called "free speech".
"Rather than burning the midnight oil surfing the net in search of esoteric explanations to the meaning of life, do yourself a favour and get a good night's sleep tonight instead"
Ignorance is Strength perhaps ? God forbid we should inquire about the origins of the universe, false flag operations and Trafalgar Club transparency !!!
Once again you presume to know me and hide behind an anonymous ID. No doubt I have my faults but you, be hiding your face and attacking me reveal you own true cowardice.
The way you have subverted people's genuine feeling of patriotism and have turned the BNP it into a money grubbing operation for sexual deviants is truly despicable.
And here is a piece of "esoteric" opinion for you. The universe may indeed be capricious in it's everyday working, but over time I believe the materialistic lying leadership of the BNP will have to give an account of themselves in this world or the next.
"Ignorance is Strength perhaps ? God forbid we should inquire about the origins of the universe, false flag operations and Trafalgar Club transparency !!!"
Griffin doesn’t have to be transparent about the ‘Trafalgar Club’
Its his families private slush fund with Jackie Griffin owning a cash point card to access it directly, and Griffin, and his mothers signatures required for signing cheques.
The wording for the ‘Trafalgar Club’ is of great interest, because it declares it advances the party .
BNP, and Trafalgar Club members donate to this slush fund in the belief that it does advance the party, but it doesn’t. Not a single penny ever goes anywhere near the BNP. The Griffins privately reap more than £80,000 a year from this ill-gotten money.
Other BNP funded organisations that benefit the Griffin family are, GWR, and Excalibur. None of them needs to declare anything to the EC, as they are owned by individuals, and not the party, even though BNP members money set them up, and fund them.
The BNP members aren’t interested in the fact that the Griffins are the poor mans version of , Ferdinand, and, Imelda Marcos. They don’t care that these greedy money grubbing low grade ,and perverted individuals stuff their faces at top restaurants, and have built their dream home at the memberships expense, and nor do they know, or care, that there is literally thousands in cheques and cash sloshing about un-banked and un-cashed that the EC will never hear about.
Anyone here remember all the printing equipment that the BNP supposedly spent a kings ransom on? They didn’t, it was all donated by a member who learnt his lesson and only lasted 12 months. The BNP declared it as expenditure, meaning, that someone took the equivalent out of the party in cash.
I feel sorry for BNP members, I truly do, not the mouthy bastards who post on SF, but the poor people who never connect to the Internet, attend meetings, or ever get to find out just what a pile of filthy corrupt shit they have become associated with.
The EC don’t care, the police don’t care
No one cares, and Britain, is FUCKED.
Just to add
Where are the BNP accounts?
MI5 have a history of recruiting from Cambridge university - work it out.
" And here is a piece of "esoteric" opinion for you. The universe may indeed be capricious in it's everyday working, but over time I believe the materialistic lying leadership of the BNP will have to give an account of themselves in this world or the next.
20 July 2008 00:32"
Well said Simon.
I couldn't have said it better than this.
You have a deeper and more spiritual insight into matters than the materialist dross of Gri££in and Co will ever have.
I beleive that at heart Gri££in and Co are fundamentally decent individuals and have made positove contributions to nationalism.
However, that man and his assocaites have been consumed by the Dark and have been corrupted by materialist elements that seek to destroy nationalisma n
Gri££in and Co have now become the enemeny and on no account can they ever be trusted again.
They have become pawns of their Dark Puppet Masters.
"ES said...
MI5 have a history of recruiting from Cambridge university - work it out.
20 July 2008 18:37"
I worked it out ages ago, but I'm just wondering how much longer it will take others. If it goes on like this it will be to late, and may be it already is.
"I beleive that at heart Gri££in and Co are fundamentally decent individuals and have made positove contributions to nationalism."
Griffin has never been decent.
I have known Griffin very well from the 1970s and I must admit in those days and into the 1980s I found him very good company - humourous, and even generous of spirit. He could have been working for the state even in those days of course - who knows - but outwardly at least he was a level-headed kind of guy with charisma and some charm.
The Griffin we see today is a different creature altogether. I am convinced he is either mad or working for our enemies, quite possibly both.
By the way PTD on Stormfront at the very least works under the direction of Nick Griffin. I have it on very reliable authority (a leading Griffin supporter but one whom I trust impeccably) that at least some of PTD's posts are made by Griffin himself.
I think we can all agree then, that, Edgar taking his son to an NF meeting was strange to say the least. Especially, when you consider that the 'Monday Club' was on a par with the NF.
ES, said it best
"MI5 have a history of recruiting from Cambridge university - work it out."
There can be no other explanation.
So, everyone who has ever attended Cambridge is a potential MI5 agent?
Well, here is a list of other agencies that recruit at Cambridge: ICI, Cross & Blackwell, Proctor & Gamble, the people behind Jaffa Cakes,.....
Again, why is attending an NF meeting, while also supporting the Monday Club, so important? The two groups were very close at the time, despite hostility from the Tory leadership?
Yes, of course, Simon has the secret history of the world at his fingertips.....he bought the book on Amazon!!
"...he bought the book on Amazon!!"
I plead guilty to reading books but not cooking them.
Once again, why don't you say who you are ? Since you claim you know so much ?
I suggest a BNP leadership that was not controlled by the State would have the courage to refute what I and many say by having the courage to at least name themselves. Yet you persist in being anonymous.
Dear Mr Griffin, or which ever of the BNP Nomenclature that you represent, you said
"So, everyone who has ever attended Cambridge is a potential MI5 agent?"
The assumption thate veryone who attened Oxbridge is a potential MI5 agent is, of course, nonsense but you would admit that MI5 do recruit from Oxbridge and given the history of spies and agents at Cambridge in particular I am sure that you will agree that Simon has at least a small point.
However, would you or would you not agree that - as the Bible itself sattes - "By their fruits you shall know them".
Considering that you/Mr Griffin has essentially wrecked the BNP and his actions speak louder than all thwe words he spouts on Stormfront/NWN/BNP website/BNP meetings/Identity etc I am sure that you will agree with me that your/his behaviour is somewhat suspect of him being a State agent, or at least operating indirectly as one.
No evidence that anyone has 'cooked' the books in the BNP, Simon.
No evidence the BNP is 'wrecked' either.
Why is my identity so important Simon, when you seem unconcerned about the other anonymous posters on here, particularly the ones who agree with you?
"No evidence that anyone has 'cooked' the books in the BNP, Simon."
Where are the accounts for Great White Records, Trafalgar Club and the rest ?
In fact transparency in general ? It's all money with Gri££in isn't it ? Why didn't Gri££in seek out Steve Smith's expertise after he helped get all those seats in Burnley ? Why hasn't Gri££in sued Martin Webster who revealed that NG is bisexual ? What Queens evidence did Collett threaten Gri££in with in order that Warren Bennett had to got be rid of ? How come 5IMon Darby is second in command but has no political ideology ? Why has so much talent not been used ????
And where the fucking hell is all the money that has been raised in the name of the British National Party ?
Why does Darby seem keen to talk about guns ? Why did he have a business address that a Lib Dem election agent gave in a South Staff parliamentary election ?
What is Darby's relationship with outed MI5 agent Andy Carmichael ?
Then there's Edgar with the Tories..Harrington and the splitting of the BNP vote....
These are just a few questions and I'm not even trying
Why are people with ability forced out and sacked whilst degenerates like Collett and Walker obviously still have Griffin's ear ?
And to those reading isn't it interesting that Gri££in and co are allowed free speech on here but there is no reciprocation on the BNP forum or similiar ?
You are traitorous filth.
Simon, you protest too much and take too much notice of internet rumours and ramblings.
But that has always been your downfall, hasn't it?
First, the accounts. Despite the opposition's best efforts (Searchlight, Labour MPs, the BBC, etc) there have been no prosecutions or even hints of prosecutions because of any skulduggery in the finances. Just repeating the accusations, doesn't make them true either. Now, in the current climate, do you not think that the book would have been thrown by now if there had been even a hint of any wrongdoing?
Oh, that is because Griffin and the BNP is 'state-controlled', I hear you cry!! Get a grip. We are not taking part in an episode of the X-Files. This is the real world!
As for the expertise of Steve Smith of Burnley: do you mean his 'expertise' in completing election forms or his first-class way with a sandwich board? He was in the right place and the right time, nothing else.
Why should NG sue Martin Webster and drag this nonsense about his sexuality through the courts? Are you mad? Don't answer that question.
Likewise, the tittle tattle about Simon Darby. You have been suckered by various rumour-mongers (of which you are now part).
Which all begs the question: who is the traitor here?
"First, the accounts. Despite the opposition's best efforts (Searchlight, Labour MPs, the BBC, etc) there have been no prosecutions or even hints of prosecutions because of any skulduggery in the finances."
That in itself is very interesting. Perhaps the relevant authorities belong to the same lodge as Edgar ?
Once again I condemn you anonymity the lack of reciprocity in allowing a similiar debate on a BNP forum or similiar and your defence of the indefensible. I again remind you of how you condemn NWN but are allowed airspace on here.
"Why should NG sue Martin Webster and drag this nonsense about his sexuality through the courts? Are you mad? Don't answer that question."
Why not, Griffin can afford it, he uses BNP members money to fight his legal cases, remember? Anyway, we all know he's a fag :-)
"Likewise, the tittle tattle about Simon Darby. You have been suckered by various rumour-mongers (of which you are now part).
Which all begs the question: who is the traitor here?
23 July 2008 10:14"
Ask Darby about 97 Camplin Crescent...Then come back and give us the answer.
Ask Griffin about GWR/Trafalgar Club, and give us the answer.
You can't, and you won't, because you're terrified of the very thing you've joined.
No, not at all.
I get a straight answer every time.
Perhaps it is the way you ask the question or maybe you just never had the guts!
Of course, NG is a 'fag': so is everyone else Webster has ever tried to smear!
As usual, Simon resorts to some kind of la-la-land masonic conspiracy to explain all.
Same old, same old.
"No, not at all.
I get a straight answer every time.
Perhaps it is the way you ask the question or maybe you just never had the guts!"
Come on then, give us the answers. Everyone I know who has asked has been expelled, so, you're full of shit, but, give us the answers to the Trafalgar Club, and GWR monies, or, fuck off.
Listen you foul-mouthed fool, there is nothing to answer about the BNP's finances.
You have been suckered. Just like all of the other cyber warriors who take the ravings of trolls and malcontents on the internet seriously.
Just because you keep repeating allegations doesn't make them true.
That is the logic of the News of the World.
"Listen you foul-mouthed fool, there is nothing to answer about the BNP's finances.
You have been suckered. Just like all of the other cyber warriors who take the ravings of trolls and malcontents on the internet seriously.
Just because you keep repeating allegations doesn't make them true.
That is the logic of the News of the World."
I beg to differ, and strange that you adopt the tabloid stories when it suits you, eh?
"I get a straight answer every time."
My arse...
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