Wednesday, July 09, 2008

GRIFFIN’S LIBERAL MULTICULT BACKERS 'STITCH- UP' BNP IN SHOCK LOCAL ELECTION WIN:
BNP MEMBERS ASK THE QUESTION, “ARE WE BEING MISLED BY OUR CHAIRMAN?”

By Nemesis






In a recent key by-election in the new parliamentary constituency of Dagenham & Rainham (South Hornchurch Ward, Havering Council) the BNP were defeated by one of the party’s so-called ‘allies’ – the National Liberal Party. This important ward was one of two that the BNP are targeting with a view to gaining their first MP. The other one was Chadwell Heath ward (Barking & Dagenham Council). If they had won these seats the BNP’s drive towards capturing the Council as well as realising the dream of its first MP in this key BNP constituency would have been maintained.

Due to the decisive involvement of the National Liberal Party, the BNP result in Havering Council, South Hornchurch Ward, was an abject failure, its vote having fallen from 908 votes (24%) in May’s London elections to 518 votes (21.2%) in this local council election held on July 4th.

Full results for the South Hornchurch (Havering by-election) were:-

Michael Deon Burton, Independent, 661

Anthony Allan Steff, British National Party, 518

Christopher Peter Richard Ryan, Conservative, 438

Graham Michael Carr, Labour, 416

Reg Whitney, Havering Residents Association, 287

Craig Jason Litwin, UK Independence Party, 64

Dr Peter Thorogood, English Democrats - ‘Putting England First!’, 28

Malvin Paul Brown, Residents Association of London, 17

Mark Ronald Whitehead, No description, 17

The independent who won the seat was a black candidate who was backed by the National Liberal Party and who had come within 100 votes of winning the seat last time around.

The perverse and disturbing feature of this important election was that the independent was backed by a political party that claims to be ‘nationalist’. The National Liberal Party is the political wing of a ‘nationalist’ think-tank called ‘Third Way’, an organisation set up by a former National Front leader, Patrick Harrington.

Their website shows reports detailing the South Hornchurch election and their backing for the black independent candidate. All the posts were written by ‘Pat’, who is effectively Patrick Harrington.

In one post boasting of the victory of the independent candidate, Harrington says,
“An independent candidate backed by the National Liberal Party (NLP) has won a Council seat. Michael Burton topped the poll with 661 votes. His closest rival came a comfortable margin behind. The NLP and Third Way were criticised by ‘Nutzis’ and extremists for backing Michael just because he is black. Good to see that so many saw beyond mere skin colour and voted for a positive policy agenda.”

Questions are now being asked within the BNP and by other nationalists why Patrick Harrington and the Third Way/NLP were backing a non-indigenous candidate and opposing the candidate put up by the British National Party. Just whose side is this outfit on? Of course, their participation in this election has shown them to be a false-flag operation and the pseudo-nationalists that they actually are.

The activities of Third Way/NLP in the election suggest that the Third Way/NLP attempted to stage some political positioning, which they claim to be astute at doing. This showmanship was designed to give the impression of independence and the appearance of reacting to events, covering up what is really being staged - which is pursuing a strategy.

‘Pat’ in his report of June 18 states, “As previously reported the National Liberal Party (NLP) withdrew its candidate at the forthcoming council by-election in South Hornchurch in favour of an Independent (but part of the coalition group -The Peoples Alliance).” Commentators agree that the Third Way/NLP had no serious intention of contesting the election and wanted to support the black independent candidate as they believed that he stood a good chance of winning, as well as to give the impression that they were ‘non-racists’ and to make a public statement that they were now a part of the consensual liberal politics (that is, not a nationalist party and now part of the liberal agenda supporting multiculturalism and the Left-liberal social experiment).

‘Pat’ continued in his article, “Following on so soon from the London Assembly elections it came as a surprise to find no less than nine candidates. Already the more serious ones have begun distributing leaflets: Labour (4), Conservative (3), BNP (2), and UKIP (1). Our activists have been busily helping the independent candidate and his team with his own leaflet(s) (which includes an endorsement from our local NLP Chairman (that’s Graham Williamson by the way).

So there we have it.
Not only is the Third Way/NLP scheming its way into close political alliances with non-white candidates but it is proactively supporting them and working for their political machines! Furthermore, this was carried out in direct opposition to the BNP’s own candidate and their team of activists.

There can be no greater demonstration of political betrayal than the active collaboration of former nationalists working not only for the agents of multiculturalism, but against the white nationalist representatives of the indigenous peoples of Britain. The Third Way/NLP now have the Mark of Cain firmly embedded within their identity, a mark that disqualifies them as being nationalist in any way, of being pariahs amongst all nationalists.

Third Way/NLP even had the nerve to make up some falsehood about alleged criticisms of the independent candidate. As ‘Pat’ says in his piece of propaganda, “Sadly some neo-Nazis have sought to attack Michael Burton on account merely of his skin colour.
They have attacked the NLP for supporting his campaign.” In his increasingly rabid and self-promotional statement that is pure political theatre designed in an effort to distance the Third Way/NLP from any charges of ‘extremism’ or ‘racial politics’, ‘Pat’ stated, “The NLP message is clear. We support Michael because we believe he is the best man for the job. We will intensify our campaigning on his behalf in response to these embittered, twisted misfits.”

In an effort to rally his troops against the BNP candidate ‘Pat’ made his strident call to mobilise his Third Way/NLP activists to campaign against the BNP candidate so as to ensure a victory for their black independent candidate. “All local NLP supporters have been urged to lend him support”. Furthermore, ‘Pat’ made a statement on the NLP website that confirmed their course of action, “The NLP also withdrew our candidate in favour of Michael since in our opinion and now clearly in others too, he is the best man for the job. We provided a statement of support for his election leaflet.”

So there we have it. Proof positive of nationalist traitors who have infiltrated the nationalist movement and who are now actively standing against nationalist candidates and the BNP.

The presence of such an independent candidate with the full backing of Third Way/NLP was sufficient to ensure that the BNP failed in its attempt to capture this key seat on Essex Council.
BNP activists are now asking the question why are they doing this, and why are they targeting the BNP?

The National Liberal Party is another front group for Patrick Harrington who also runs the Third Way think-tank, Mother Earth environmental front group, Counter Culture front group and also the Solidarity Trade Union.

Patrick Harrington is notorious for having been a close ally of Nick Griffin in the National Front, until the pair split, with Griffin leaving to form the International Third Position and Harrington the Third Way. Since Griffin assumed Chairmanship of the BNP the pair have become close political allies and Harrington is regarded by commentators as being one of the coterie of unofficial advisers around Griffin.

The National Liberal Party, The Third Way is described as a political party that was formed in 1990. It contains several former members of the National Front. Around fifty members of the party's Political Soldier wing joined Third Way at its foundation. The party has recently changed its name to National Liberal Party, The Third Way.

Third Way/National Liberal Party claims that "Third Way is for everyone.”, meaning that it is essentially a ‘false-flag’ setup that conveys the appearance of a nationalist party but whose ideology, policies and actions demonstrate its hostility towards both nationalism and nationalists.
It is the new UKIP, attempting to divert resources and votes away from nationalist parties, including the BNP, and attempting to sow discord and disunity. The group has condemned ethno-nationalist ideology as ‘neo-Nazi’ and its supporters claim it actively recruits from all ethnic and religious communities.
It stood its first Asian candidate in local elections in 2006.

Third Way/National Liberal Party policies include de-criminalization of prostitution and cannabis, and reform of Britain's role in the European Union – but not withdrawal.
It even gives its very own Equal Opportunities Statement on its website:
“Equal Opportunities Statement
(National Liberal Party - the Third Way Executive)

The National Liberal Party supports and is concerned to implement equal opportunities. We aim to ensure that all members of the public have equality of access to the services we provide and that none receives less favourable treatment on the grounds of his or her gender, race, ethnicity, colour, nationality, disability, sexuality, age, trade union activity, religious or political beliefs. We welcome membership applications from individuals over eighteen who are not members of proscribed organisations and who wish to work with us towards social and economic justice.”

We have seen how Nick Griffin allowed the National Front to collapse and when this had been done both he and several other leaders, including Patrick Harrington and Graham Williamson, left to form new nationalist ventures. Griffin went through the ITP like a 'dose of salts', moving on to the BNP under Tyndall, whose path to power he assiduously plotted until he usurped the Chairmanship.
Once that had been achieved Griffin used the tools of expulsions and forced resignations to guide him, using the full force of a constitution that he doctored to ensure that he remained as dictator.
Very soon Griffin used the opportunities afforded to him to misuse the financial capabilities of the BNP and to gradually change it to become a pro-Zionist and solely anti-Muslim party that distanced itself from the full nationalist programme of its original inception.

Patrick Harrington and other allies formed the Third Way and quickly distanced themselves from the ideology of the National Front and pretty soon began to embrace the politics of liberalism and multiculturalism. Harrington later became part of the Solidarity Trade Union, a nationalist trade union that was soon to implode in factionalism and power-struggles, not dissimilar to the fratricidal warfare within the National Front.
Harrington was crowned leader of Solidarity by the king-maker Griffin in a coup in July 2007 as the union also embraced the politics of pseudo-nationalism and watered down its nationalist credentials in favour of the Third Way/NLP pursuit of goals in support of liberty and McCarthyism.

Griffin’s pursuit of his twin-obsessions, self-endowment of the spoils from the BNP (including his obsession in becoming a Euro MEP) and liberalising the BNP to make it part of the Neo-Con Plan in capturing overall global ambition, marks the tidal mark of British nationalism. Any nationalist need only take a step backward and look at the dots of his past and he will quickly join up the dots. The picture is not reassuring and in reality dismal.
Griffin’s Masonic connections, through his father, suggest the involvement of far more powerful forces at work which see the BNP as a mere extension to its grand strategy.


The defeat of the BNP in one of its key target areas by a Third Way/NLP supported black candidate is just one of those dots. Third Way/NLP have now become one of the integral components of the new BNP, an attempt to secure new power blocs and new strategies designed to give the impression of a BNP supported by non-BNP political forces.
Its real intention, however, is to weaken the BNP and deprive it of electoral success and finance through a smoke and mirrors plan of deception. Griffin has surrounded himself with numerous dubious individuals who seem to have motivations that are not always amicable to nationalist aspirations. Having a former convicted bomber who attempted to implicate a series of political assassinations is one thing. Using as a key ally a political rival who actively opposes the BNP on key electoral territory and in alliance with black candidates is another.

How long will it be before nationalists realise something is seriously amiss in the BNP?

When will they begin to join the dots up and make a picture?

And when will they finally see the proof of the picture that is staring them in the face?





49 comments:

Anonymous said...

A posting at 2.11 am. Do you suffer insomnia?

There is no electoral alliance between the BNP and Third Way/NLP. The Third Way has stood in elections against BNP candidates. As Third Way/NLP have a different set of policies that shouldn't shock anyone.

Third Way has co-operated with members of the BNP in Solidarity because a Trade Union has a different function from a political Party. Trade Unions can include people of many different political persuasions.

The NLP is not an ethno-Nationalist organisation but an economic and cultural one. It is not the same as the civic Nationalists of UKIP with which you draw false comparisons. Nor does it support the status quo.

Third Way/NLP operates to a policy agenda of its own which is not motivated by any desire to join with the establishment. It is independent, stands where it likes, backs any candidate it likes and is not swayed by those who lack an ideological perspective which is clearly not thought through (you).

You highlight NLP policies on prostitution and cannabis. We live in the real world. We believe in regulating these areas. Nationalists don't have to have a reactionary, conservative viewpoint on social issues and we don't!

Anonymous said...

No surprise there then, seeing as both Griffin & Harrington are a pair of shirt-lifters.

Anonymous said...

I've just seen this statement on the NLP website!


Sadly some neo-Nazis have sought to attack Michael Burton on account merely of his skin colour. They have attacked the NLP for supporting his campaign. To his credit the British National Party candidate has not involved himself in this kind of naked race hate and has campaigned on the issues. The NLP message is clear. We support Michael because we believe he is the best man for the job. We will intensify our campaigning on his behalf in response to these embittered, twisted misfits.

Final Conflict said...

Why did Griffin split the NF in 1989? Over israel? Over immigration? Over homosexuality? Over increased centralisation? Over Harrington? These were the lies told to us.

Now Griffin's BNP is a carbon copy of Harrington's NF (albeit he has much worse centralisation) and he is liasing with Harrington over certain ventures.

So what was 1989 all about?

Just more blood letting?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, can you tell me why Patrick Harrington was made head of 'Solidarity' with Griffins blessing, and why, Graham Williamson, was chosen by Griffin to watch over Barnbrook at the GLA?

What is Griffins relationship with the NLP, and why is he happy to see BNP votes lost to you?

Anonymous said...

It's time for BNP members to seriously consider what Griffin is up to

Anonymous said...

"Final Conflict said...
Why did Griffin split the NF in 1989? Over israel? Over immigration? Over homosexuality? Over increased centralisation? Over Harrington? These were the lies told to us.

Now Griffin's BNP is a carbon copy of Harrington's NF (albeit he has much worse centralisation) and he is liasing with Harrington over certain ventures.

So what was 1989 all about?

Just more blood letting?

09 July 2008 11:47"


It all makes perfect sense to me, FC.

Only one question ever need be asked, and that is, why did Edgar Griffin, Tory party member, and Tory councillor, take his son to a NF meeting. Why didn't Edgar take him to a Tory party meeting?

The BNP is a state safety valve, and Griffin is allowed to do what he wants as long as we're all kept together where they can watch us.

The anxieties of the British people have been used to fill Griffins pockets. The BNP/NF under Griffin was/is never meant to get anywhere.

Nemesis said...

One thing is certain we are slowly beginning to see the truth where Gri££in is concerned.

The curtain of lies and deceipt that he has fed us all for years is slowly unravelling.

A ray of truth is beginning to shine through and as we true nationalists bathe in its rarity we see it exposing the rancid, rotten, dank and maggot-infested pool of slime that Gri££in has left, a pool that has become the drinking trough of all manner of slimeball creatures that feed on negativity and corruption. The likes of Kemp, Darby, Collett, Harrington, Williamson and Walker.

These creatures of the dark hate the truth and as they scuttle towards the dark-filled recesses of their domains they leave nothing but the miasma of their faeces, like slime from a slug.

Too late though as we shall track you down and expose your squalid little schemes and empty ambition. We shall reclaim what is Britain's heritage and with it we shall annilihate its internal enemies and State-wreckers, and we shall conquer our beloved Albion!

The Truth shall set us free!

boltonboy said...

There is something very, very, very VERY strange about Nick Griffin (leader of the BNP) being cosy-cosy with an organisation which puts up candidates, or endorses candidates, who stand AGAINST the BNP !!!

If an ordinary member did this he'd be drummed out by the Griffinite kangaroo courts in no time at all - so why does Griffin behave like this ???

As I say, very very very strange.

Anonymous said...

"If an ordinary member did this he'd be drummed out by the Griffinite kangaroo courts in no time at all - so why does Griffin behave like this ???

As I say, very very very strange.

09 July 2008 18:27"

Don't you realise that these people also run 'Solidarity'? The BNP pays their wages for heavens sake. Are BNP members really so fucking stupid!

Anonymous said...

"A posting at 2.11 am. Do you suffer insomnia?"

It's that harrington again is'nt it?

The man is either a raving obsesed lunatic, or he's being paid by the hour by his mate griffin.

Griffin must be nuts to pay harrington to trawl the internet every hour of the day and night so that he can respond to any negative attacks on either griffin or harrington.

Harrington is griffin's internet rotweiler!

It's the only work he ever does now that his days as a GNER trolly-dolly have ended.

Anonymous said...

What I find strange is, no one on SF seems bothered by this.

Griffin wanted to use a member of the NLP before he wanted to use his own deputy chairman, Darby.

No one seems to care, are we in the twilight zone?

Anonymous said...

I just heard that, Michael Deon Burton, intends to cross to the BNP giving them their first black councillor.

Anonymous said...

in contemplative mood, our sad young friend patrick harrington is burning the midnight oil trying to work out a way to send shit to his enemies by e-mail attachment.

Anonymous said...

The BNP becomes the Front National?

Anonymous said...

Nemesis sounds like a Dalek! He should audition for Dr Who.

The Third Way/NLP has a longstanding relationship with Independents in the Havering area. The NLP have no electoral alliance with the BNP. NLP and Third Way stand by their commitments and therefore backed the Independent candidate Michael Burton. As NLP are a separate, independent Party I don't see how you think Nick Griffin is responsible for this. Nick Griffin holds no role within the NLP. NLP are quite entitled to stand a candidate themselves or back another candidate of their choice.

No NLP official works for the BNP as one poster has suggested.

Anonymous said...

It's incredible that there are people in the BNP who still can't see the tie in between Gri££in and many of his pals and so many other political or pseudo-political groups, phoney companies and strange trusts.

Still, he's not worried as long as the voters don't know (and that as any politician or conman knows, takes time). Maybe it needs a 'BNP exposed' website devoted to showing up all these links, both now and in the past. It would be one hell of a read.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I just heard that, Michael Deon Burton, intends to cross to the BNP giving them their first black councillor.


The usual disinformation. Michael Burton has no such plans.

Anonymous said...
Anonymous, can you tell me why Patrick Harrington was made head of 'Solidarity' with Griffins blessing, and why, Graham Williamson, was chosen by Griffin to watch over Barnbrook at the GLA?

What is Griffins relationship with the NLP, and why is he happy to see BNP votes lost to you?


Pat Harrington has built the Union with his team from around 42 members to around 300. The lacklustre tosser Clive Potter didn't even manage to send out a membership card for a year! Yet you support him. Pat Harrington has a fine record of supporting individual members of Solidarity who have problems at work. He has personally represented many at disciplinaries and grievance meetings. This, of course, means nothing to you as you aren't interested in workers facing problems in employment. You are interested only in political point scoring and petty personal attacks.

I dare say Nick Griffin would have rather won the seat in South Hornchuch. His Party did well coming second (a fact you ignore). Certainly for the Independent and BNP to get 50 per cent of the vote and push the establishment parties back is positive. You, however, choose only to look at negatives and seek to sow discord and division. Your glass will always be half empty!

Solidarity forever!

Anonymous said...

"No NLP official works for the BNP as one poster has suggested."

I don't give a shit if they are officials, or not. The fact remains that BNP members pay their wages. You and Griffin can shove it ALL up your arses. I've had it. We pay the wages of two of your members and you stand against us and win.

McBollock said...

"Pat Harrington has built the Union with his team from around 42 members to around 300. The lacklustre tosser Clive Potter didn't even manage to send out a membership card for a year!"

Talking about yourself in the first person is the trait of someone up their own backside!

Calling an opponent - albeit until recently a BNP regional organiser - a "tosser" shows you have no justifiable argument.

To think of Solidarity as anything other than a Griffin front-group [I'd say BNP... but let's face it, everything has become a personal fiefdom] is semantics beyond what i would have thought possible.

Still, nice to know the multi-cults, zionist apologists, homo-neutral shysters are all chums together!

personally i'd rather be associated with "tosser" Potter than people who have always seen nationalism as a cash-cow.

In 1989 Harrington was paid to coollect members dues which pretty much just went on harrington's wages and the rental of a room in Chez Harrington for storing NF papers etc.

What a farce! Funnily enough Griffin picked up on this at the time... but then at the time he was also slagging off Harrington for caving in on Israel, faggots, Immigration and more.

How times change!

Seems the filthy lucre wins through in the end! ;-)

Anonymous said...

Harrington is a filthy piece of scum - he was the one that ripped off Ian Stuart & all the bands that played for the NF under the White Noise banner. When Ian realised what was going on he formed Blood & honour & cut all ties with Harrington. In a fit of homosexual rage Harrington then rang Stuart's parents and told them Ian had died - what a charmer.

pat's nice suit said...

He turned up at Ian Stuart's room in the Ferndale Hotel one Sunday afternoon, dressed in a three piece pinstripe suit and carrying an ornate walking stick.

He started telling Ian off and threatening him because he'd co-operated with Joe Pearce on a book which Joe was writing about the history of Skrewdriver. This after he and Griffin had ripped Ian off for thousands!

When Ian had finished laughing he told Harrington to f*ck off and threatened to kick him down the stairs whereupon the prat started whimpering and threatened Ian with his (Harrington's) mother.

Anonymous said...

Once again we have abuse and unsubstantiated allegations from the Nutzis. Now I see you are branching out into historical revisionism - not to deny or reinterpret events but to create them.

I think you should all form a Party and see how you do at the polls. Whilst your at it form your own Union and make Clive Potter your President. You will then be able to show how more intelligent and effective you are than both Nick Griffin and Pat Harrington.

BTW Clive Potter is a tosser.

Anonymous said...

It's about time that Pat Harrington's past caught up wth him.

Many of the newby nationalists are unaware of exactly what he's been up to and the kind of baggage that he has brought with him from the days of the NF.

It's good to read contributions from fellow nationalists who have had experience of the man and have been able to share something of the travesty and shadiness of this spite-filled man. The comments made about Harrington's treatment of the late great Ian Stuart are shameless.

Ian Stuart will forver live within our hearts whilst the likes of Patrick Harrington mean nothing.

Anonymous said...

"Once again we have abuse and unsubstantiated allegations from the Nutzis. Now I see you are branching out into historical revisionism - not to deny or reinterpret events but to create them.

I think you should all form a Party and see how you do at the polls. Whilst your at it form your own Union and make Clive Potter your President. You will then be able to show how more intelligent and effective you are than both Nick Griffin and Pat Harrington.

BTW Clive Potter is a tosser."

Who are you calling a "nuzi" you arsewipe. BNP members pay your wages, now fuck off back to Griffin you theiving corrupt loser.

pat's nice suit said...

Patrick Harrington said: "Once again we have abuse and unsubstantiated allegations from the Nutzis. Now I see you are branching out into historical revisionism - not to deny or reinterpret events but to create them.

"I think you should all form a Party and see how you do at the polls. Whilst your at it form your own Union and make Clive Potter your President. You will then be able to show how more intelligent and effective you are than both Nick Griffin and Pat Harrington."


You're a liar Harrington. All your cowardly mates sat in a van outside while you went into the Ferndale and tried to threaten Ian Stuart whilst dressed like a bad double glazing salesman.

Fair play to you that you at least had more courage than your useless buddies (which included Williamson as I heard it), but once inside the building you made a total knob of yourself when you crawled to Ian Stuart like a baby.

Did you ever give him the money back that you robbed from the White Noise Club?

Anonymous said...

Could you provide evidence to show that NLP members are paid wages by the BNP. You are once again entirely wrong. NLP is independent of the BNP as you should by now have realised. You are confused because NLP members back Solidarity which is non-Party political and accepts members from all backgrounds. You seem to have a problem with such distinctions - is politics really right for you?

Good to see you and FC getting on so well. I was trying to draw a Venn Diagram showing the relationships between you all but then I realised there was no need for sub-sets or intersections. A simple circle representing 'losers' suffices.

Nemesis said...

Some anonymous poster has said this...

"Once again we have abuse and unsubstantiated allegations from the Nutzis. Now I see you are branching out into historical revisionism - not to deny or reinterpret events but to create them.
I think you should all form a Party and see how you do at the polls. Whilst your at it form your own Union and make Clive Potter your President. You will then be able to show how more intelligent and effective you are than both Nick Griffin and Pat Harrington.

BTW Clive Potter is a tosser.
11 July 2008 12:27"

Looks like NW Nationalists have upset a few of the Old Guard eh?

I'm so pleased.

It shows that we have really struck a raw nerve with these second-rate chancers.

They moan about "abuse" and then immediately launch into abuse! How sad and predictable of these hollow men.

Tell you what Big Man - give us back the BNP and we shall run it according to our values and beliefs and then after a year or two (no, not even 8 years)we'll compare notes.

Sound like a reasonable deal?

Though I doubt that honesty and a straight deal cuts it with the spineless antediluvian predators of the Griffinite Fourth Reich.

tell sid said...

My favourite memory of Harrington is when Martin Webster's partner Mike Salt dumped him in the gutter and told him "that's where you belong you f*cking little poof!"

NorthWestNationalists said...

Hey nemesis,

some of us here are the real 'old guard' !

We want honesty back within the movement.

Is that too much to ask ?

We need a broad coalition of nationalists of honour, to take the movement back from the crooks.

Nationalism should NOT be only about MONEY.

That is why we at NWN never ask for money.

Anonymous said...

If your posters are going to tell lies they should at least research some facts. Ian Stuart wasn't living at the Ferndale when 'Skrewdriver the first ten years' by Joe Pearce came out. He had moved elsewhere on Argyle Square. The events described are fictitious.

Your posters like to make serious allegations which they are unable to provide any evidence for. You publish them (after moderation) and therefore approve their content. That doesn't seem wise but you know your own business best.

Any argument between Harrington and Stuart was mainly economic. Stuart had cut a deal with Rock-o-rama records and saw the White Noise Club as middle-men that weren't needed. He also didn't like the fact that Harrington wanted to promote a wider variety of bands and types of music No Surrender (see the compilation album with the likes of ATR and Final Sound on). Skrewdriver regularly changed their line-up and many band members were cut out of royalties by Stuart. Harrington tried to get Stuart to appeal to a wider audience beyond skinheads. Look at the cover of Blood and Honour and the music which was starting to appeal to heavy metal fans.

Whilst the WNC was run by Derek Holland and Pat Harrington regular gigs were held, a magazine produced and records. The problems with supplying orders were inherited from Ian Anderson and Derek Holland (a traditional Catholic) did his absolute best to rectify the situation and deal with complaints. Profit from WNC funded the NF for years. When Ian Stuart took control the finances went from a mix of funding the bands and politics to just funding the bands. The voluntary labour and connections supplied by the NF all went. It is ironic that many of your poster accuse Harrington when he ensured money went to the political struggle and not individuals.

Where is this music scene now? It is all run from the US.

For many years Pat Harrington and Ian Stuart were friends. Harrington used to drink with him at 'Sound and Vision' in Soho. He was thanked on record covers. The NF, Holland and Harrington fell out with Stuart over the direction of White Noise and over the division of money. It is as simple as that. It became acrimonious as Stuart needed to justify his break with the NF to the fans.

I note what NWN say about money. Money is, however, necessary to fight elections and run organisations. You use blogspot which is free and (as far as I can tell) organise no events and stand in no elections. I don't know anything about BNP finances but what has been said or implied about Solidarity is tosh. That makes me wonder if anything you say is true.

Anonymous said...

tell sid said...
My favourite memory of Harrington is when Martin Webster's partner Mike Salt dumped him in the gutter and told him "that's where you belong you f*cking little poof!"


Yeah, right. The recreation of past events for wish fulfilment on this blog is interesting. It must make you posters more comfortable with their drab, boring, bitter, twisted lives.

Anonymous said...

Tell you what Big Man - give us back the BNP and we shall run it according to our values and beliefs

Standing in internal elections too much of a bother? You want control given to you? Doesn't seem very likely outside your fantasy world. Go and form your own Party and compete. See how you do.

Nemesis said...

"Looks like NW Nationalists have upset a few of the Old Guard eh?"

No offence meant to the 'Old Guard' of REAL nationalists, NW Nationalist.

I was referring to the 'Old Guard' as represented by those hangers on and sycophants who cling round Griffin like limpets to a rock.

It goes without saying that the genuine and real nationalists lke NW Nationalists are in it for principles and values other than money, in stark contrast to many of those around the Griffinite Fourth Reich.

Those like NW Nationalists want a nationalism based on concepts that seem alien to those who aspire to the Griffinite Fourth Reich who only want raw power and the abuse of members' money.

Concepts such as loyalty, comradeship, honesty, integrity, truth and community are swear words to Nick Griffin and many of those around him.

Apologies to NW Nationalists for any confusion caused.

you know i was there pat said...

Patrick Harrington could just be right about Ian Stuart's living arrangements. The memory plays tricks after such a long time. Yes, it could have been a different building that the exchange took place in. But take place it did, and I witnessed it all first hand because I was there in Ian Stuart's room when the dickhead arrived wearing his ridiculous suit.

The rest of what he says is absolute cr*p. Harrington and Griffin were ripping Ian Stuart off left, right and centre and they used to brag about it openly. Ian f*cked him off out of his room on that Sunday afternoon in no short order. It was hilarious to watch.

Anonymous said...

Anon said

Yeah, right. The recreation of past events for wish fulfilment on this blog is interesting. It must make you posters more comfortable with their drab, boring, bitter, twisted lives.

Talking about yourself and your own sad little world of delusion, fantasy and insecurity eh Pat Harrington?

When you describe all NorthWest Nationalists as having "bitter and twisted lives" you can only be referring to yourself, having burnt your bridges with the NF when you and Griffin wrecked it. Since then you've been on a personal mission to prove yourself and to get yourself in a prominent position within the nationalist movement.

Anonymous said...

Another ano said ( couild be the same anon though!) said

Standing in internal elections too much of a bother? You want control given to you? Doesn't seem very likely outside your fantasy world. Go and form your own Party and compete. See how you do.

Trouble is we and anyone else who wants to participate in elections and engage in the democratic process find it next to impossible to do so - as well you know - and will be more so in the future when your messiah, Mr Nicholas Griffin - whose hand seems to be up your backside manipulating you - is attempting to crack down on internal elections and thus make it twice as hard to do so.

If you and your puppet-master wants to fight elections fairly and you have the guts to do so, come on then - we'll take you on (and that doesn't mean that we have to be blindfolded and fight with one hand tied behind our backs whilst you choose the rules of the fight and elect your own referee and are able also to use a baton as we are required to stand still whilst you hit us with it).

If you believe in democracy and liberty and are not cowards come on and fight us in free and fair elections.

Anonymous said...

"I witnessed it all first hand because I was there in Ian Stuart's room"

Tell us then Mr Witness, your name and the date and time this took place (you have already said you got the place wrong). Do you claim that anyone else was crammed into Mr Stuarts tiny room with you? Did you take part in the argument or make any threats?

Could you explain also how, if you were in the room, you were able to see a parked van and who was inside it? Could you explain why Harrington would go into a flat alone for an argument if he was concerned with his physical security?

Your story is just full of holes, you have an axe to grind and the only other person (Ian Stuart) said to be present is dead having died in a road traffic accident.

Anonymous said...

I would urge NWN to research the history of the National Front in the latter part of the 1980s. It is during this period that certain people came to the fore who are currently at the very centre of nationalism's difficulties. It may have been a very small organisation, but I believe the late 80s NF was almost a state prep school for the movement of the future. Take a look, they are all there today, working away for the enemies of nationalism. And Harrington and Groffon are at the very centre of it all.

I believe the splits of 1986 and 1989 were engineered by the state and were cosmetic, for our eyes only. How else can you explain Griffin, Harrington and Wingfield all being together again today?

dave thomas said...

Harrington, perhaps you can tell us what happened down Brick Lane when your "comrades" decided to teach you a lesson and broke your arm?

Yet again you lost your bottle and started whimpering about your mum, didn't you? That really was a laugh.

victor logan said...

@ dave thomas

I think he'd rather tell you about the times he and his shaggy friend used to sit in his mum's basement flat, where she would bring them coffee while the they sat with a pile of porno mags, diligently cutting out all the male and female genitalia and then posting the cut-outs to the elderly wives of some his enemies WITHIN nationalism. It must be difficult for some of you new guys to imagine what a weirdo it is we are dealing with here!

Anonymous said...

Being unable to provide any evidence for one set of allegations you simply throw more mud. Could you provide dates, times and details of who was present by name during the events you claim to describe? Could you specifically state if you are accusing anyone of committing criminal offences and if so who?

kevin bennett said...

Have the courage to tell me your name and I might (not that anybody doesn't know, of course!).

Anonymous said...

"I would urge NWN to research the history of the National Front in the latter part of the 1980s. It is during this period that certain people came to the fore who are currently at the very centre of nationalism's difficulties. It may have been a very small organisation, but I believe the late 80s NF was almost a state prep school for the movement of the future. Take a look, they are all there today, working away for the enemies of nationalism. And Harrington and Groffon are at the very centre of it all.

"I believe the splits of 1986 and 1989 were engineered by the state and were cosmetic, for our eyes only. How else can you explain Griffin, Harrington and Wingfield all being together again today?"


Also don't forget also that Harrington struck up a mysterious relationship with Lecomber during this time despite the fact that one was in the Gaddafi NF and the other in the BNP.

Harry Ington's Love Child said...

"You're a liar Harrington. All your cowardly mates sat in a van outside while you went into the Ferndale and tried to threaten Ian Stuart whilst dressed like a bad double glazing salesman."

Things don't change much do they?

Patrick Harrington still wears the same old double-glazing man's suit so as to try and impress people that he is "professional" and "someone to be reckoned with".

He issues threats and tries to win through attrition.

He's the male equivalent of a bitch.

i know you know said...

He was Nicky's bitch, and I don't mean Griffin! ;o)

Anonymous said...

A lot of personal abuse on this thread and little reasoned argument. The childish abuse has had zero effect on either Solidarity or the National Liberal Party.

Solidarity continues to grow under the leadership team of seven. A team elected in independently scrutinised elections by direct ballot of the membership. Elsewhere you criticise other groups for not having internal democracy. Yet no praise for Solidarity on this point?

You criticise the NLP for being liberal Nationalists. Yet, it seems to me, that anyone with any personal experience of say the 'war on drugs' (for example) knows it is not working. The sensible policy of dealing with it as a medical issue and taking it out of the criminal justice system is favoured by the NLP. Drug addiction is often a form of 'self-medication' caused by other underlying psychological problems.

The reactionary posturing of some Nationalists may get them a reputation for being 'hardline' but does nothing to solve the problem. Keep taking the tabloids!

It is obvious that some of your posters have axes to grind regarding Pat Harrington. They are clearly not members of Solidarity or the NLP. As it is those groups he represents why should he care about the views of twisted, ill-informed and clearly prejudiced outsiders?

Anonymous said...

"NorthWestNationalists said...
Nationalism should NOT be only about MONEY.

That is why we at NWN never ask for money."

Perhaps it is also why apart from running a blog by the kindness of blogspot you seem to do little else? Meanwhile, back in the real world, to fight elections and run organisations money is needed. It's not all about the money but money is needed to pursue Nationalist goals. Your argument is really about how the money is spent and accounted for as I understand it.

Anonymous said...

anonymous said

"It may have been a very small organisation, but I believe the late 80s NF was almost a state prep school for the movement of the future. Take a look, they are all there today, working away for the enemies of nationalism. And Harrington and Groffon are at the very centre of it all.

I believe the splits of 1986 and 1989 were engineered by the state and were cosmetic, for our eyes only. How else can you explain Griffin, Harrington and Wingfield all being together again today?"


So before the men in white coats come to take you away could you explain whether those now around Final Conflict were part of the grand State conspiracy? Could you also give evidence and grounds rather than just state belief and make assertions?

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