Saturday, May 05, 2007

Stormfront UK post reply by Pete Rushton

An interesting description of what is wrong in the BNP:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/why-did-people-not-vote-385858p6.html

Today, 03:43 PM
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Andy Ritchie
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Re: Why did people not vote for the BNP
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Originally Posted by Unconditioned Canuck

Originally Posted by Unconditioned Canuck

Would fractional decisions have had much meaning to the average voter? Did this cause a lack of manpower that was absolutely vital in turning the tables? Can manpower compensate for lack of ideal growth conditions?Perhaps the BNP has simply captured its maximal outreach - people who are comfortable in dismissing press headlines noting the founder saying 'Mein Kampf is My Bible.

(NWN: Unconditioned canuck ? More like unconditioned rabbi ! )

'Factions and other internal matters would very rarely have a direct bearing on an average voter.

But the indirect effect of the type of factionalism that has beset the BNP, especially in its most crucial target areas, is devastating.

A party like the BNP simply isn't so well equipped in talent and experience that it can afford to cast off people of the calibre of Steven Smith and Simon Bennett in Burnley, to name but two.

Take the election count in Burnley's Rosegrove with Lowerhouse ward, where the BNP was at one stage a vote ahead, but lost after a recount and drawing of lots.The people in the Burnley count with the most experience of electoral law and procedures (and more generally of serious politics) were all from the EFP not the BNP (even though the BNP is by far the larger party).

By the time of the controversial recounts, five of the EFP team had left the building (since our counts were finished), one was on the phone to a friend (who herself was banned from speaking to a BNP meeting not long ago), and another was unable to assist because our party had no legal status in that particular ward.

BNP agent Dave Shapcott was left to take decisions for which he simply isn't qualified, against the full might of a Labour team including Burnley's MP Kitty Ussher.

Had we all been still in the same party, don't you think we would have had a better chance of prevailing, and coming away with another BNP council seat gained?
All so sad, and all so predictable.

Manpower can't fully compensate for lack of ideal conditions.

The problem with the BNP is not that it has failed to take hundreds of seats nationwide - we would need far more favourable conditions for that to be feasible.

The problem is that even in those frontline areas where conditions have been close to optimal ever since the turn of the millennium, the BNP has made progress, only to fall back. A full analysis would take several pages, but alongside Burnley just think of Oldham and Blackburn.

Experienced individuals have been marginalised, expelled or alienated; which has in turn worsened demoralisation among the broader activist base.

The "nazi" tag will always be there, though arguably less of a problem the further we move away from 1945, and the more public scepticism about the authorised version of history is stimulated by such blatant establishment lies as the "weapons of mass destruction" fiasco.

In my experience the most effective smears against the party have been less about national socialism, or any other ideological issue, than about the criminal records and general behaviour of certain people in the BNP and the broader movement.It isn't IMHO a question of the BNP having attained its "maximal outreach", even though a net gain of one would suggest that, as the BNP website currently puts it, the party has worked hard to stand still.

The BNP has not simply held its former ground.

On the contrary, it has been beaten backwards in some of its strongest areas, losing eight of the nine council seats it was defending, and often losing by large margins, while at the same time breaking new ground in different areas.There was only one BNP heartland area - Stoke - where the party made real progress this week, and even there the margins of victory were very tight.

After all that gloom, congratulations are due to the BNP's Sadie Graham, who won Brinsley ward on Broxtowe Council with a majority of 144, defeating a Labour candidate who is also the local vicar .

NWN: Once again Peter Rushton gives an insightful description of the malaise of the BNP's inner sanctums.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Above all else, the problem is one of quality.

Unfortunately, anyone of talent or ability is seen as a potential rival, either by Griffin or his ambitious toadies.

They are then systematically forced out the party, leaving nothing but third-rate opportunists.

With the inevitable results.