Word is reaching us that the 'Solidarity Union' Paypal account has been frozen pending an investigation into money laundering.
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What was it Mark Payne always used to say?
"They didn't get Capone for murder, they got him on the money"
John Walker is hitting the bottle big time and as of this evening is phoning around ex BNP members trying to get them to pull the post about his demotion on the leadership challenge site.
He is threatening to sue VOC members that he wrongly believes are behind Cllr Auty's site if they don’t remove the truthful post..
It looks like the bottle, and the knowledge that Griffin wants rid of him is taking its toll. Walker is losing the plot.
Perhaps its got something to do with the missing 11K from Scotland’s BNPs account, that has and probably will never be returned.
Maybe the national treasurer in Scotland can show members the 11k back in the Scottish account, but I know they can’t.
Keep hitting the bottle Walker; it’s your only friend
When a PayPal account hits a certain threshold of money in it triggers the money-laundering regualtions automatically. This means that the organisation or individual has to submit photo ID, bank statements etc. There is no specific investigation of the Union - it is their standard procedure. Many of those using ebay and PayPal will know this to be true.
Once the documents have been processed the account is restored. Why do you keep trying to spread disinformation about Solidarity?
Is that poor old Johnny boy not getting his kicks from watching horse porn anymore that he has to go around phoning and threatening ex-BNP members?
I sincerely hope that those recieving these malicious calls from him report him to the Police.
John, I'm sure you read this site so take a hint and feck off!
As the union was hijacked, they won't be able to provide bonafide ID, and if they do attempt to produce any, it's FRAUD.
Anonymous said...
As the union was hijacked, they won't be able to provide bonafide ID, and if they do attempt to produce any, it's FRAUD.
When you use the word 'hijacked' it is very curious. Solidarity has had a Special Meeting, an Annual Conference and independently scrutinised elections. At every point the members of the organisation have supported Pat Harrington and the current Executive. This is democracy. Live with it!
Can you tell us when Mr Mullen was elected 'General Secretary', or for that matter the former pretender Mr McLinden? Who voted for them? Was anyone else given an opportunity to stand? Could you tell us who the Vice President is in the fake world you inhabit now that Mr Hawke has thrown the towel in?
As Mr Potter has publicly stated that by law Solidarity elections had to be held by February of this year and as he failed to put himself forward as a Candidate in the November elections could he or you explain why he stills call himself 'President'? I am starting to think you might be a little out-of-touch.
Perhaps you might also like to explain what activities your 'Union' organises, who you have represented and how the misguided would join your outfit?
Your claims to be the 'real' Solidarity don't stand up to investigation. Even by making complaints to the Certification Office against the Union the agents and dupes have admited reality. Such complaints can only be submited about a Union. Solidarity is answering your complaints and lies patiently. You will get nowhere. Your false accusations and behaviour will eventually damage only yourselves. Payback is coming your way.
"Payback is coming your way."
Is that a threat of violence you corrupt bunch of wankers?
Payback is coming your way.
25 June 2008 13:39
Are you making threats against individuals Mr Harrington?
Someone called Anonymous posted this
"Your claims to be the 'real' Solidarity don't stand up to investigation."
Who is "Your"?
You don't even know who the poster(s) is/are so why say "Your" when you try and defend yourself against the poster(s)?
You are thrashing out making wild assertions and bogus finger-pointing against individuals you know nothing about.
For your information Pat Harrington or whoever you are, it is not "my" union. I am not a union member. I don't even know if it's "yours".
Sort it out yourself as I've got nothing to defend against someone as obessive as you are and who makes baseless accusations and lays the blame on everyone else.
So go away you useless runt.
it is not "my" union. I am not a union member. I don't even know if it's "yours".
Sort it out yourself as I've got nothing to defend against someone as obessive as you are
Why don't you stop posting items on the Solidarity Union if you are not interested in and don't have any knowledge of it? Our brotherhood is sorting it out.
A poster called Anonymous(but very likely Pat Harrington it would seem from the content of the post) said on 25 June at 13.39 that payback would be coming.
Now Mr Harrington, re you threatening or inciting acts of violence against those who have legitimate concerns about Solidarity and who take the proper legitimate route to have those concerns heard?
Who do you think you are - Nick Griffin?
An earlier post, presumably from a member of the false Executive who hijacked Solidarity in a coup last year, has attempted to argue for the rightness of their actions.
This poster is trying to spread misinformation by repeated ad nauseum certain falsehoods about the unconstitutional and unethical actions when they took over Solidarity.
The false Solidarity Executive may have had certain executive elections last year and an AGM this year, but these were based on false premises, namely a false and unconstitutional Extraordinary General Meeting held in July 2007 and assisted by Nick Griffin.
Griffin was, of course, ensuring that his protege, Pat Harrington, was running the show after Griffin decided to run with Harrington, stabbing loyal BNP members in the back (nothing new there).
Pat Harrington had been constitutionally suspended and then formally expelled from the Union after certain allegations had been made against him and which required investigation by the Union.
Instead of co-operating and accepting the due processes of the constitution (which ANY organisation needs to do otherwise it collapses through anarchy) Pat Harrington went over the authority of the Union, stamped his feet and called for an illegal EGM which he had no power or right to do so. Anyone else would have accepted the due proceses of the constitution and appealed or complained to the Certification Office, or walked away from it all. If the official Executive had been founf wrong then I can ssure you that its members would have held up their hands and walked away too leaving nothing but apologies to Pat Harrington.
The coup was finalised after the bogus EGM was held and since then the false Executive has been trying to legitimise its position. It really is all smoke and mirrors and the false Executive had used very conceivable smear tactic and propaganda trick to paint themselves as the real constitutional and ethical authority, whereas as anyone with the smallest of consciences and intelligence can see they plainly do not. It is NOT democracy as the new and false Executive was founded on lies, an abuse of the constitution and an abuse of the power welded by Griffin.
Mr Mullen was voted on the legitimate and constitutional Executive of Solidarity as an Acting General Secretary. This was done to fill a vacancy and as the members of the false executive should know (that is if they know anything at all about constitutions and the due processes of how they operate) this is normal practice which continues until elections are held. Mr McLinden was also seconded by the Executive to replace the position vacated by pat Harrington who had to be expelled for his conduct against the Union. It is not the legitimate authority of the Union who live in a false world. We happen to live in the real world marked by values of honesty and comradeship and the rule of law and the constitution. The false Executive live in a dark world of make-believe dominated by power-struggles, factionalism and the brute force of power. They are the last hanging strands of the old National Front, a clique led by Griffin and Harrington and a few others , who are tainted by their association with coups and personality rivalry and back-stabbings. What these individuals practiced in the days of the NF they bring with them to nationalism today and their tainted canker contaminates the DNA of every political organisation that they touch.
Mr Potter remains the President and all other Executive members and officials continue in their posts until new elections are called. Obviously, in the current organisational crisis created by the unprecendented stunt of Griffin and Harrington hijacking a trade union all operations have been suspended. As soon as matters are normalised the official Solidarity Executive will hold new elections and not one of the existing members of the official Executive wishes to continue longer than is necessary. Once the unconstitutional damage that the false Executive carried out has been rectified than it will be safe for new people and new blood to fill the new Solidarity.
The real and official Solidarity cannot perform many official duties at this moment in time as the false Executive froze the Union acounts after the crises first occuured. Then a couple of thousand punds were removed without authority form the Union's HSBC account and mysteriously transferred to a new bank account. As could be considered the right course of action HSBC then replaced the money that had been illegally removed but the account remains frozen due to the dispute caused by the wrecking actions of the false Executive. So clearly how can a Union operate effectively when an illegitimate and bogus authority which has taken over an organisation expect to be able to service its members and run as the trade union it was designed to do in the first place? You caused in. Now why do you expect us to answer your rhetorical questions knowing full well that your actions have created this unnecessary problem in the first place?
It is the right of any union member to make complaints to the Certification Office should they feel that it is necessary. Why do you try and deny these people that right? So much for freedom of speech? Coming from a clique of individuals who operate the Third Way who claim that they stand for liberty and against McCarthyism, this is a bit rich. In fact it's rank hypocrisy.
As regards your statement that members complaints will get nowhere surely you are presuming a great deal. It is the role of the Certification Office to investigate complaints. Let them decide. Of course, it may be that the false Executive who now run the hijacked union will escape censure from the Certification Office, maybe from technicalities, but you should respect the right of any member to make such a complaint and to follow procedures - although clearly from your past actions in staging a coup against the constitution of the union you do not seem to respect such things as constitutions.
As for your veiled threat of violence against our members who are practising their rights with the union and the Certification Office we take great umbrage at such things and we shall treat such threats with the contempt that they deserve.
"The false Solidarity Executive may have had certain executive elections last year and an AGM this year, but these were based on false premises, namely a false and unconstitutional Extraordinary General Meeting held in July 2007 and assisted by Nick Griffin."
The Constitution of Solidarity requires it to hold an Annual Conference (or AGM). As the name implies it is held annually. It does not have any connection with the holding of a Special Meeting (or EGM) earlier. The Annual Conference is the ultimate decision making body of our Union and the Executive is generally bound to follow any decisions made by it. You didn't attend the Annual Conference and didn't even try to pretend to hold one. For someone so interested in Constitutional matters this appears somewhat odd. Please explain.
As to the Special Meeting or EGM it was properly called by 2/3rds of the members at the time writing to the General Secretary asking for one. Could you explain your objections to the members deciding how the Union is run through such general meetings? Could you explain why you have never attempted to call a general meeting of the members? By your own account you have no funds and can't engage in any work. Why not then appeal to the members who will doubtless support you as you are such a fine, upstanding, moral person?
Pat Harrington isn't afraid to walk among the members or explain his position. He was never expelled and remains our General Secretary. We have backed him against you at every opportunity. You really should have got the message by now - you were no use as a President and we are glad to be shot of you!
In your world you give people titles like General Secretary. First Mr McLinden, now Mr Mullen. You don't hold elections (or as we have seen General meetings). Nor do you say when you will hold elections or who will vote in them. By law elections to the Solidarity Exec had to be held by February. As you didn't stand in the independently scrutinised ones organised by the legitimate Union shouldn't you have held your own?
Your are clearly very confused and find it difficult to be consistent and logical.
You state quite explicitly that your offer no services to anyone. You blame the 'false Executive'. Yet even if they had to hitch-hike to disciplinaries they would represent members. Indeed, despite all the problems the agents and dupes have caused they have kept providing services and doing the job. You seem to lack their motivation.
You can of course complain to whosoever you like about our Union. I suggest you petition the Queen next. Certainly you should never put your argument internally!
Alternatively perhaps you should just accept that you have been outclassed and outgunned? You are only making matters worse for yourself by continuing your sad charade 'Mr President'.
You have taken 'Payback' to be a threat of violence. It isn't. Soon you will learn what it means. Solidarity forever!
As regards your statement that members complaints will get nowhere surely you are presuming a great deal.
According to our Solidarity bulletin one traitors complaint is that you had to be a member of Third Way or the BNP to stand in Executive elections. That's just rubbish! Every member was invited to stand. There was no political qualification. I looked at the Union website and got a bulletin at the time about it. If that is the level of their complaints they certainly are going nowhere! It is a fair assumption.
Adam Walker is a far better President than Clive Potter. He is dynamic. If Potter had stood in the elections he would have lost. In his heart he knows this which is why he didn't stand. It is very messy for him to claim to be President without any legitimacy or support. He must come to terms with reality and move on. He is making himself look silly and wasting his time with negativity.
"He is making himself look silly and wasting his time with negativity"
He isn't negative, he's telling the truth. You'll be calling him a red next
"He isn't negative, he's telling the truth."
Can you explain how Mr Potter is helping individual Solidarity members facing discrimination or other problems at work? Can you detail any positive work Mr Potter is engaged in to promote the interests of the British Worker?
Mr Potter has made a number of allegations over a long period of time. He has yet to substantiate any of them.
One poster says:-
"If the official Executive had been founf wrong then I can ssure you that its members would have held up their hands and walked away too leaving nothing but apologies to Pat Harrington."
Why, yes of course. Clive Potter and the 'Official Solidarity' (the one that doesn't do anything other than complain to State agencies about their former associates) are ideal judges in the case of Pat Harrington, no preconceptions or prejudices. Certainly the postings from the traitors, dupes and agents indicate a very fair-minded attitude toward him and Third Way. They announced him guilty before the proposed trial. Their meetings were secret and inquorate. Minor points I know.
How unreasonable of Pat not to go along with all this and appeal over their heads to the membership! And what could the members of been thinking when they sided with him and told Potter and the rest 'On your bike'.
A poster whom I assume to be pat harrington as they are defending Solidarity makes the threat "Payback is coming your way."
No general secretary of a respectable trade union would dare sink so low as to make threats and speak of "payback".
This about sums up the discreditable characters who run solidarity who sound like a bunch of bully boys and mafia than 'union leaders'.
You are a disgrace and you should be ashamed of yourself making such disgusting theats and pathetic and childish claims merely because some people feel it necessary to criticise recent events in solidarity.
Go hang you head in shame. You ain't no nationalist and you ain't no normal sane person.
You have taken 'Payback' to be a threat of violence. It isn't.
So says the Great Fantastist the one and only Patrick Harrington.
Does that mean you'll be shitting in bags and posting them to all those who have upset you then?
Once a shitbag, always a shitbag, eh Pat?
I see that the traitors, dupes and agents have been posting childish abuse once more about the Solidarity Union. It is to be expected. Whenever they attempt argument they are defeated by reasoned, patient responses. Whenever they make substantive accusations they are challenged to provide evidence and are unable to do so.
All Union members are prepared to defend Solidarity. Pat Harrington has overwhelming support in the Union.
You deserve 'payback' because you have engaged in personal abuse, made false accusations and sought to disrupt the work of the Union. You have co-operated with the enemy and even use their phrases and tactics. Why should we distinguish, therefore, between you and them?
We hold our heads high because we continue to progress a Nationalist Union despite sustained attacks. Our work for ordinary people facing problems at work has never stopped. Frozen accounts, smear campaigns, vexatious complaints to State agencies - nothing has prevented our focus on our primary function.
You raise the question of payback. Surely this is just another word for Justice? If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear. If, on the other hand, you have committed any civil or criminal offences during the course of your campaign against the Union I am sure that this will have been documented and, once other matters have been resolved, patiently and dilligently pursued. This process may continue for you personally long after you have lost interest and the public eye has turned away. Still, personal accountability is very important don't you think?
Anonymous said...
Adam Walker is a far better President than Clive Potter
Aaahhhh, the Walker brothers - what a pair of disgusting creatures. These lowlifes shagged the same girl in the toilets at the BNP conference in Blackpool in 2007. I wonder how thier wifes would take the news especially seeing as one of them was left caring for thier 6 month old daughter while thier husband was shagging some slut in the toilets?
I am posting this in response to the childish imature threats by someone who claims to be representing solidarity trade union, which i helped to set up before it was taken over in a dishonest manner by pat harrington and nick griffin last year in july.
I get the impression that the poster (who hasn't the guts to declare him or herself) is the self proclaimed "leader" of the stolen solidarity union, pat harrington.
To answer his claims the real solidarity has put forward its arguements and evidence to the certification office. It is up to them to deceid what to do.
I seem to remember that pat harrington made disgusting personal attacks on the unions executive when he took it over last year. Lancaster UAF blog was full of attacks made by PH against us. Mr harrington has directed many attacks against billy mclinden, mr potter and myself after we were forced to suspend him and then expel him from the union.
Its hipocrasy for mr harrington to try and twist things and claim that we are co-operating with the enemy when he has no evidence that we have and mr harrington has used lancaster uaf to attack the real solidarity.
The one occasion that lancaster uaf was used by the real solidarity was when i had to answer false statements made by harrington on lancaster uaf.
It is you mr harrington who seems to be the enemy within. We are already getting the picture that your friend nick griffin has many dubious connections with freemasonry and the fact that he has been apparently protected by the state shows something fishy going on. Solidarity was about to make a huge leap forward just before your takeover and it caused imense damage to the union and your character asasinations of its executive were apparently designed to inflict as much damage as posible.
You talk about frozen accounts. That is what you did to the unions bank accounts, and you also removed over £2000 from the account without authorisation.
Smear attacks? You're the expert on it, smearing everyone who has challenged you, whether it be on lancaster uaf, nazi websites or on the solidarity website that you took from the executive. The poisonous smear attacks and false information that you and your dupes put out against the executive and those against griffin since last year have been horrendous.
You talk about "vexatious complaints to state agencies". All of the exceutives complaints are valid and justified. Everyone knows that you were in the wrong when you and griffin took the union over last year and ever since you've been trying to make it look legit. We shall have to see what the cert office says (though just because you may get off on any possible technicality doesn't mean that you were ever right, either legally or morally. We all know that your actions were immoral).Besides, your own use of state agencies is well known. This blog alone has detailed various claims from individuals who claim that you dealt with special branch during your days in the national front. You have made several appeals to the press complaints comission about stories in the press about you in the past. You had made your own claim to the cert office against your former trade union (the RMT) who expelled you after you used a false name of patrick sharp to join (are you going after them now for payback too - though since they are left-wing no doubt that won't be the case, seems that only griffin and harrington take revenge on fellow nationalists don't they?).
Our meeting held in cambridge earlier this year brought together solidarity members and those opposed to the griffin/harrington takeover of the union and it was resolved that all complaints made to the cert office would be supported. In the event of a succesful outcome it was deceided that the members would deceide on the outcome of the unions future once the plotters and troublemakers had been disciplined.
Th executive has nothing to fear and nothing to hide - unlike those now present in the union who owe their position to their plotting.
Yes mr harrington, personal responsibility is very important. we know that you are unable to comprehend the fact that you can never do wrong and are never to blame and that you are the 'victim' in all of this self created mess of yours, so i hope that you are to take full personal responsibility for having helped destroy a major nationalist trade union project as solidarity.
Under you and griffin it won't go anywhere and isn't. You have damaged it because of your own ego and as nick griffin once told me, you are a "golden pheasant who needs to always save face - hence give him what he wants".
Golden turkey more like it.
What a state our education system is in! People leave school without even a basic grasp of the English language. Take Tim Hawke for example. There is no need for him to put his name to anything as it is easy to spot him. I am going to start a fund to buy him a dictionary. In the meantime:-
Hipocrasy should read hypocrisy, imature should read immature, deceided should read decided, imense should read immense and succesful sucessful.
Can Tim also use capitals for proper names in future please.
His spurious arguments can be examined later. Spelling and logic lessons in one go may be too much for him to cope with.
To answer his claims the real solidarity has put forward its arguements and evidence to the certification office. It is up to them to deceid what to do.
No. It is our membership which decide policy and direction. The Certification Office has wisely stated that who runs the Union is not a matter for them. Pat Harrington took the issues to the membership at General Meetings and in a fair election. They backed him all the way. You have never put your case before the members because you know they despise you.
Everyone knows that you were in the wrong when you and griffin took the union over last year and ever since you've been trying to make it look legit. We shall have to see what the cert office says (though just because you may get off on any possible technicality doesn't mean that you were ever right, either legally or morally. We all know that your actions were immoral)
So even if the CO rule against you the Union is still in the wrong? Your reason: "Everyone knows", "we all know". I think you should understand by now that yours is very much a minority opinion. Union members believe that you are traitors, agents or, if charitably inclined, the dupes of the same.
By making complaints against the Union to the CO you have implicitly accepted the authority of the Executive and Pat Harrington. Your complaints are made against the Union not Pat Harrington personally.
You talk about frozen accounts. That is what you did to the unions bank accounts, and you also removed over £2000 from the account without authorisation.
HSBC froze the bank account because there was a dispute between the signatories. Pat Harrington removed money from the account on the instructions of the new Executive and put most in a new account after settling debts which had built-up (such as to the Accountant). All this is documented and above board.
It is interesting to note that you are seeking to import the internal diputes of the BNP into the Union. You are seeking to make common cause with those opposed to the leadership of Nick Griffin. Quite why they would be advantaged in allying themselves with you is unclear. Nor is it clear why they would want to be seen as attacking a Union doing good work to help ordinary Nationalists in workplace disputes.
From your last posting it appears that you are finding your campaign of vexatious complaints harder going than you had imagined. Not so easy as it seemed back in Cambridge?
helped destroy a major nationalist trade union project as solidarity
Despite your best efforts and hopes Solidarity is still very much here and carrying out its proper function. Far from helping to destroy the Union Pat Harrington, Adam Walker and their team have defended it against all comers. As Churchill said to the Nazis:- "Do your worst and we shall do our best".
"You raise the question of payback. Surely this is just another word for Justice? If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear. If, on the other hand, you have committed any civil or criminal offences during the course of your campaign against the Union I am sure that this will have been documented and, once other matters have been resolved, patiently and dilligently pursued. This process may continue for you personally long after you have lost interest and the public eye has turned away. Still, personal accountability is very important don't you think?
29 June 2008 06:14"
The poster who has threatened 'payback' to another group of solidarity members is nothing less than outrageous. It shows that the criminal scumbags have finally won solidarity.
Griffin and his clique of criminals have won.
This type of anti-nationalist and imoral attacks on other patriots and the issuing of threats of payback clearly shows that these deranged individuals have sunk to the level of the cesspit.
From previous posts it is evident that the poster is associated with the Griffinite wing of solidarity, the people who now control the union. It is most certainly patrick harrington, self styled leader of solidarity. Why don't you have the balls to say who you are you gutless cowards? Hiding behind a keyboard issuing threats may be heroic to internet warriors but is not behavour expected of a union official.
Oh, and whilst we're on the subject of threats why don't you have the guts to tell us all what you really mean.
You're a disgrace to all patriots.
Pat Harrington (aka anonymous) said:
'Hipocrasy should read hypocrisy, imature should read immature, deceided should read decided, imense should read immense and succesful sucessful'.
Are you sure that's how you spell successful Sir? I could have sworn it had two 'c's. Seems you're no better at spelling than your students. You appear to have missed the mis-spelling of 'assassination' too. That's 'successful' and 'assassination' that the self-proclaimed teacher cannot spell or recognise when spelt wrong. Interesting two words, especially when used together. They could almost describe what Pat Harrington is doing to the Union.
As Churchill said to the Nazis:- "Do your worst and we shall do our best".
Yes, the great man did indeed say that (about the Nazis whom he despised. That's the group who tried to take over countries and institutions by force and used illegality to get their own way; or lied and deceived and used propaganda to convince others that they were the 'good guys' and their opponents were the 'bad guys or 'marxists' or 'jews', and who also followed without questioning a dictatorial leader. Now what does THAT sound like?)
Churchill also said other things (check them out) -
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Winston Churchill
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.
Winston Churchill
Do not let spacious plans for a new world divert your energies from saving what is left of the old.
Winston Churchill
He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.
Winston Churchill
One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
Winston Churchill
Perhaps it is better to be irresponsible and right, than to be responsible and wrong.
Winston Churchill
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
Winston Churchill
Readers of this blog may wish to refer to these guidelines for diagnosing Narcissistic Personality Disorder in certain individuals associated with the Nationalist Movement in this country:
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
From "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders"
of the American Psychiatric Association, 4th edition, 1994,
(commonly referred to as DSM-IV.)
Narcissistic Personality Disorder: "An all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or in behaviour), need for admiration and a marked lack of empathy which starts at early adulthood and is present in a variety of contexts."
At least 5 of the following should be present to qualify a person as suffering from NPD:
(1) Possesses a grandiose sense of self importance (for example: exaggerates his achievements and his talents, expects his superiority to be recognised without having the commensurate skills or achievements).
(2) Pre-occupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and beauty or of ideal love.
(3) Believes that he is unique and special and that only high status and special people (or institutions) could understand him (or that it is only with such people and institutions that it is worth his while to be associated with).
(4) Demands excessive and exceptional admiration.
(5) Feels that he is deserving of exceptionally good treatment, automatic obeisance of his (usually unrealistic) expectations.
(6) Exploitative in his interpersonal relationships, uses others to achieve his goals.
(7) Lacks empathy: is disinterested in other people's needs and emotions and does not identify with them.
(8) Envies others or believes that others envy him.
(9) Displays arrogance and haughtiness.
It should also be noted that those who possess a neurotic personality have a tendenecy to use such singular possessive pronouns as "I", "mine",etc and to equate organisations and artifacts with themselves as if they are one and the same.
Yes, the great man did indeed say that (about the Nazis whom he despised. That's the group who tried to take over countries and institutions by force and used illegality to get their own way; or lied and deceived and used propaganda to convince others that they were the 'good guys' and their opponents were the 'bad guys or 'marxists' or 'jews', and who also followed without questioning a dictatorial leader. Now what does THAT sound like?)"
Well, not Solidarity. Solidarity is a democratic organisation with an elected leadership team. We require only two members to sign nomination papers (very generous compared to other organisations!), advertise the call for nominations and place the organisation of the election in the hands of Auditors. Our members express themselves at general meetings and the Executive is bound by their decisions. There is no block-voting just direct ballots. Clearly those attacking the Union are either unaware of or choose to ignore our internal democracy.
Could they tell us the name of just one person who has been prevented in standing for election as a Solidarity official? Could they detail just one motion that the Executive has failed to put before an Annual Conference?
In contrast we have a small group of people who appoint themselves to positions like 'General Secretary' at secret inquorate and unconstitutional meetings. They don't have any gatherings of ordinary members. They don't recognise Union elections and don't hold any themselves.
They accuse the leadership of the Union of 'hijacking' and a 'coup'. Yet it is well documented that this all began with an unconstitutional attempt to suspend the General Secretary.This was in reaction to his calls for a wider Executive (an increase from three to seven) and early internal elections. The attempt to mount a Palace coup and hijack the Union was made by Potter and Hawke. It failed because their belief that Harrington would meekly accept their actions or walk away from the project in disgust were misguided. He took his case direct to the members. They backed him at every turn.
As for propaganda this seems to be coming from outside. If you study the postings of those defending the Union you will see that is largely polite and factual in tone. This despite continual provocation.
Let me give just one example:-
"Aaahhhh, the Walker brothers - what a pair of disgusting creatures. These lowlifes shagged the same girl in the toilets at the BNP conference in Blackpool in 2007. I wonder how thier wifes would take the news especially seeing as one of them was left caring for thier 6 month old daughter while thier husband was shagging some slut in the toilets?"
This kind of false allegation and personal abuse is the stock in trade of the agents, traitors and dupes opposed to the Union.
Should not Potter and the rest who have lied about Union officials and colluded with enemies to disrupt the Union be held to account once their false claims are disproved and diposed of? We say that they should be brought to book.
Certainly Potter and Hawke have delayed the progress of the Union but it is growing. It represents members, provides advice and guidance and campaigns. Each week more join.
A dedicated team is working to counter the smears, restore relationships with institutions and answer the vexatious complaints. This work continues. If more resources need to be applied to it over the coming months we have them to hand. Solidarity will overcome and the Nationalist worker will not be beaten.
"It should also be noted that those who possess a neurotic personality have a tendenecy to use such singular possessive pronouns as "I", "mine",etc and to equate organisations and artifacts with themselves as if they are one and the same."
"tendenecy" Mr Hawke?
Maybe you should stick to cut and paste?
The Soviet Union used to misuse psychiatry to smear opponents. You are following a well-troden, if dubious, path.
Why don't you put your real name on posts pat harrington?
I wish that we had such a dedicated team to help answar all the lies and smears that YOU put out against the executive when we had to kick you out of the union as you claim to posess today. But then you had your old NF buddy mr griffin didn't you to bale you out and to help you hijack the union.
Harrington didn't have the guts to fight his corner in an honest and constitutional way. He failed to co-operate with the investigation and did not bother to appeal or to complain to the cert office.
Pat harrington had to run squeeling to his old time buddy to install him as a puppet.
The EGM that harrington and griffin held in july last year was a farce as harrington knows. It was unconstitutional and fixed to get the result that harrington and griffin wanted.
For griffin and harrington today to criticise mugabe and his fixed elcections is a cheap stunt.
Once the EGM was held the stage was set for harrington to set for the exec elctions in november -after harrington and griffin had smeared the original exec to such an extent that they coul never be free and fair elections in any meaningfull sence of the word.
Harrington talks as if solidarity is PH. Harrington is NOT solidaity and solidaity is bigger than any individual. All we ask for is that the union is returnd to its rightfull authority and then the members can deicide. No coup detat can ever be legitimate or democratic.
Yes, the memebers did vote in the november exec elections but the EGM itself was unfair and an abuse of power by griffin with harrington running behind him as his lapdog.
Harrington has appeared to identify himself totally with solidarity. How bizarre! Its an obsession that has turned into a pantomime. YOU ARE NOT SOLIDARITY PAT HARRINGTON, AND NEITHER IS ANYONE.
And you have no monoploly on the "nationalst worker" mr harrington either. You cannot identify either yourself or the union with the concept of the "nationalist worker". Its absurd. You sound like the nazis of the nazi workers front the arbeisfront.
Harrington was not removed in some sort of a palace coup. Such romantic decsriptions by a romantic fantasist. No, harrington was suspended constitutionally as any union commitee member would understand. An invesigation was set up to look into certain complaints and an acting general secretary was appointed temporarily.
We understand that mr harrington did not like that. He lost face. He knew that he had to answar for himself. He could have exonerated himself in the disciplinary process.
He chose not to.
Instead he got his buddy dictator friend to take over the union in a coup so that harrington could be the general secretary.
As for abuse and smears it is well known that harrington and his assoiates ensured that the official solidarity executive were smeared and accused of vicous lies that they were reds, traitors and agents. Nothing could have been further from the truth. They posted comments all over the net inclusing the red site lancaster uaf.We are all nationalists and continue to be so.
Unlike mr harrington and his left wing third way party whose demnds call for eu involvment, gay rights, asylum seekers, relaxation of prostitution and drugs and all sorts of liberal social policy.
Meanwhile griffin continues to behave like the fascist dictator that he is and removing constitutional rights and democracy within his own party.
So much for harrington and his third way people who claim that they support liberty and freedonm and the magna carta constitution. They are hipocrites to the core who talk the talk of liberty yet practise the opposite.
Like the glass in a window, you are all so very transparant.
Anonymous said -
The Soviet Union used to misuse psychiatry to smear opponents. You are following a well-troden, if dubious, path.
The Soviet Union (as well as Nazi Germany) used mass propaganda, lying and deception to get their own way and to persaude their respective publics to do what they wanted them to do.
This has been practised (albeit on a much smaller scale) by the dictator Griffin and his dupes within the BNP hierarchy. Not forgetting by the new "General Secretary" of Solidarity (the one who usurped the position from the rightful post-holder Billy McLinden) and his dupes within the unofficial Solidarity Executive.
Mind you it wasn't just misused by the USSR. I understand that the USA have also misused it extensively.
Let's call a deal then, shall we?
If that individual agrees to be subject to an intensive series of psychiatric tests to determine clinically whether they do have Narcisstic Personality Disorder - and it comes out as negative - fine, we'll accept the psychiatrist's findings.
Otherwise people can only go on empirical evidence and that evidence suggests that a certain individual does seem to possess characteristics that are clearly diagnostic of Narcisstic Personality Disorder.
The tone of posts by Tim Hawke become increasingly shrill and strident. Yet the content adds nothing new to any debate. Solidarity has repeatedly explained that the meeting at which Pat Harrington was purportedly suspended was inquorate and therefore unconstitutional. No valid suspension took place, therefore there was no need to attend any hearing. This view was supported by the membership at the Special Meeting called to discuss matters. You have complained to the Certification Office about the Specail Meeting stating that it broke Union rules. We await his decision.
All decisions made at the Special Meeting were, in any case, ratified at the following Annual Conference.
At elections in November Pat Harrington was returned as General Secretary unopposed. Our members decide our policy and direction and no one else.
At every stage of the current dispute Pat Harrington has put his case to the members and let them decide. That's democracy.
Tim laments:
"I wish that we had such a dedicated team to help answar all the lies and smears that YOU put out against the executive when we had to kick you out of the union as you claim to posess today"
The reason for the lack of support for Potter and Hawke is pretty obvious. Whilst rejoicing in grand titles like 'President' and 'Vice-President' they have never actually represented a member at a disciplinary or grievance hearing. This is the bread and butter work of a Union. Even when a personal friend of Clive Potter had a disciplinary hearing at work in Leicester it wasn't Clive who fought his corner - it was Pat Harrington. In addition the Union is growing, despite all the smears and attacks by agents, traitors and their dupes.
Tim is deluded if he thinks he will ever be trusted in a position of power within Nationalism again. People now know him for what he is. He has no Nationalist political background but was given responsibility and trust. He betrayed it and showed himself childish and egotistical. He is out in the cold and no matter how shrill his complaints and allegations, no matter how he rages and hurls abuse he is not coming back.
If that individual agrees to be subject to an intensive series of psychiatric tests to determine clinically whether they do have Narcisstic Personality Disorder - and it comes out as negative - fine, we'll accept the psychiatrist's findings.
I don't know the technical term for what ails this poster but I would say he is one sandwich short of a picnic! Reality check!
BTW next time you look at your Psychiatric tomes turn to the section on 'projection', I think you will find it of great assistance.
And you have no monoploly on the "nationalst worker" mr harrington either. You cannot identify either yourself or the union with the concept of the "nationalist worker".
The Solidarity Union is nationalist and for workers. Therefore it can identify with the concept of the "nationalist worker" with ease.
Anyone who would disparage Mr. Tim Hawke needs their head examined.
Mr. Tim Hawke is an upstanding, honest and moral young man, who has a work ethic, and is well educated.
He worked over-time for months so that he could take time off to help set up Solidarity, on behalf of the British Worker, which was his passion.
Anyone disparaging Mr. Hawke shows themselves up for the low-lives that they are.
Mr. Tim Hawke is an upstanding, honest and moral young man, who has a work ethic, and is well educated.
We beg to differ. The experience of Solidarity members is that he is an egotistical, childish and two-faced individual. He told us he was a qualified software engineer yet the web site he produced looked like it had been done by an 11-year old. It was also riddled with spelling errors which are to this day being cleaned-up.
Neither he or Potter ever represented a Union member.
To be frank, he just didn't have the skills to accomplish the tasks he volunteered for. He talked the talk but didn't walk the walk. He started as a disappointment and ended as a wrecker.
Great news! The Solidarity PayPal account is now functioning as normal according to a news item on the Union website. Donations and membership subscriptions are being processed as normal. Step by step the Union overcomes all obstacles thrown in its path by agents, traitors and their dupes.
Has'nt anyone noticed how one particular poster who ALWAYS writes in favour of the usurped solidarity trade union (and is quite clearly pat harrington as they often seem to posess knowledge of solidarity far beyond that of any ordinary member, or writes so fanatically in support of it) makes posts at the crack of dawn? Posts are timed at such times as 5.15 and 6am onwards!
This individual is clearly a)obsesed, and
b) a very sad person who must get up very early in the morning to trawl the internet for any mentions of his name, or any mentions of solidarity, or his third way, or national liberal party and then obsessively posts blog after blog to defend his name or position.
He does'nt appear to work and his whole life seems dedicated to updating his personal wikipedia entry.
Saddo.
makes posts at the crack of dawn? Posts are timed at such times as 5.15 and 6am onwards!
What have you got against early morning risers? The morning is a great time, especially in the summer.
Up with the Lark, in bed with the Wren!
Anonymous (aka pat harrington) said
"makes posts at the crack of dawn? Posts are timed at such times as 5.15 and 6am onwards!
What have you got against early morning risers? The morning is a great time, especially in the summer.
Up with the Lark, in bed with the Wren!
04 July 2008 06:31"
Nothing against early morning risers "anonymous".
But when it comes to saddo individuals who have to log on to their pc at the crack of dawn just to see if their name is mentioned on any blog or forum, or to update their personal wikipedia, or to counter any critism made of them on any article posted up, it seems not only obsesive behavour but shows that that individual attention focus is purely on their own ego.
It calls into question the state of mind of that person.
Maybe its narcisstic persoanlity disorder?
Maybe its just one huge big ego?
Or just maybe its the cravings of someone whose only purpose in life is to be someone special - but who lacks those esential skills that come with being special.
You'll have to be careful though mr anonymous when you're blogging and posting -
its the early bid that captures the worm!
Your posters do talk a load of nonsense. Many people work shifts and go to work early. Some work nights and get home in the early morning. What is the problem with someone posting early in the morning. The internet is 24/7 - get with the program!
The amateur psychology isn't that impressive either. Stick to the arguments instead of trying to hide your lack of a case behind personal attacks and abuse. It comes over as pretty desperate.
"Many people work shifts and go to work early. Some work nights and get home in the early morning. What is the problem with someone posting early in the morning. The internet is 24/7 - get with the program!"
We've got no problem with people getting up early to do work shifts.
Only that we all know that you DON'T go to work, having left your job from GNER as a Customer Service Manager.
So what exactly DO you do to earn a living?
You describe yourself on the net as a "tinker". I presume that means flogging stuff on eBay.
Either you've got insomnia or you're very desperate to start hitting the keyboard at 6am in the morning, making sure that any mention of yourself is responded to immediately.
Such is the mark of desperation...
Either you've got insomnia or you're very desperate to start hitting the keyboard at 6am in the morning, making sure that any mention of yourself is responded to immediately.
That comment was posted at 1820 last night. So if I post a response now it would hardly be immediate! I do think in general though that any disinformation propagated by agents and their dupes should be answered at the earliest opportunity. Others take the view that so few people read blogs like this and they have such little real influence that it is not worth the effort. I don't go along with that partly because I think it is good for you to have your misguided views challenged and to have your spite and bitterness drawn out. It is an act of charity toward you.
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