Splits in Enough is Enough group ?
We are hearing that the Voice of Change has split from the new forum that they have set up.
Info is sketchy at the moment. Makes grim reading.
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New and improved VOC forum will be up and running shortly without the autocratic Cromwell.
For some inexplicable reason th following landed in my Inbox:
Steve Blake decided to terminate his association with Brendan Scarborough, the facilitator of voice of Change Forum. He apparently felt the hardline extremist Louise Scott, and the computer illierate Nicholla Smith were in a better position to run the forum than myself.
I was already disappointed and growing increasingly disillusioned by what I had experienced with VoC during my brief association; and feel they have been dishonest and misrepresented themselves. I truly believe Steve Blake and the Smiths are poised to establish a new political party; and I feel that is unacceptable and something I cannot support.
If any of you are interested in continuing what has become a fine, conservative Nationalist Forum; I invite you to rejoin us at the forum's new Domain britishnationalism.org
Steve owns the domain vocforum.org.uk but I own the forum itself.
A more comprehensive statement will be available shortly. Best regards to both those who choose not to continue supporting this forum, as well as to those who will.
Brendan Scarborough –Nationalist without portfolio
-Cromwell
Conservative - nationalist ?
That's an oxymoron !
Just when i thought i had found a possible home,f... me i now see that a split in the ranks of the voc forum.nationalism goes from bad to worse.
keith axon
"Steve Blake decided to terminate his association with Brendan Scarborough, the facilitator of voice of Change Forum. He apparently felt the hardline extremist Louise Scott, and the computer illierate Nicholla Smith were in a better position to run the forum than myself.
I was already disappointed and growing increasingly disillusioned by what I had experienced with VoC during my brief association; and feel they have been dishonest and misrepresented themselves. I truly believe Steve Blake and the Smiths are poised to establish a new political party; and I feel that is unacceptable and something I cannot support.
If any of you are interested in continuing what has become a fine, conservative Nationalist Forum; I invite you to rejoin us at the forum's new Domain britishnationalism.org[...]
Brendan Scarborough –Nationalist without portfolio
-Cromwell"
I am getting a bit confused here. To start with: I know who Steve Blake, Nicholla Smith and "hardline extremist"(?) Loise Scott are, but who is Brendan Scarborough?
As you say, NWN, "conservative nationalist" is an oxymoron. Many of the anti-Gri££in rebels are genuine nationalists ("14 word cultists" to use his expression!), but caught up among them seem to be a number of individuals who seem to think the intention is to create an even more Torified party. At the Brindley meeting, it was Roger Robertson (surely one of these) who supported the idea of a new party. Indeed, the name of an anti-Gri££in leadership candidate is supposed to be announced shortly.
NG's opponents will never be able to attract support until they actually tell us where they stand ideologically and organisationally, and stop bandying around terms like 'nazi' in an effort to muddy the waters.
There is no need to establish a new party. I wish the VoC members luck, but -unfortunately- any attempt to oust NG will almost certainly be unsuccessful. Rather than introduce yet another name, a better alternative would be to help re-establish the National Front.
By the way, NG is due to speak in Leeds again this month. Does this mean he is extremely confident over the court case or is it just typical arrogance?
I believe that the 'eye' for a leadership challenge is circa July.
We have to build a broad nationalist link/base to rid us of the crook.
Surely that isn't too hard !
If the NF is to become a viable nationalist party that can unite us all and be able to challenge the BNP under NG then we also need a man who can unite us dissidents, as I see it staying with the BNP is now becoming a lost cause.allso is the voc or whatever they decide to call it as I do not know what policies in regard to a leadership challenge they are going to make ,neither do I know what leadership challenge is going to be made from the Chris Jackson camp, and are they both going to be in competition with one another against nick griffin .
SILENCE IS ALL I CAN HERE AND I AM GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH THIS PUSSY FOOTING ABOUT
I ASK YOU ALL GET YOUR ARSES INTO GEAR AND SPEAK OUT.
AS YOU ALL NEED A KICK UP THE ARSE.
Ps IF this post does not stir you all I will personally give you all a kick up the arse if ever I am invited to any meeting .
KEITH AXON
"SILENCE IS ALL I CAN HERE AND I AM GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH THIS PUSSY FOOTING ABOUT
I ASK YOU ALL GET YOUR ARSES INTO GEAR AND SPEAK OUT.
AS YOU ALL NEED A KICK UP THE ARSE.
Ps IF this post does not stir you all I will personally give you all a kick up the arse if ever I am invited to any meeting .
KEITH AXON"
A lot of people are putting their energies into the local elections at the moment. Come the 2nd May, though, some people will have to start speaking plainly.
Ha Ha. All so predictable. Divide and rule again. Is anyone really so stupid as to believe that the Griffin/state machine did not have its agents in VoC?
Yorkie said:
"I am getting a bit confused here. To start with: I know who Steve Blake, Nicholla Smith and "hardline extremist"(?) Loise Scott are, but who is Brendan Scarborough?"
In discussions on the new forum "British Nationalists" Cromwell (Brendan Scarborough) said he is contemplating returning to Britain from where he now lives abroad. To me it sounded like he is possibly in the US.
"In discussions on the new forum "British Nationalists" Cromwell (Brendan Scarborough) said he is contemplating returning to Britain from where he now lives abroad. To me it sounded like he is possibly in the US."
Thanks for the information. It is just puzzling to me when a name I don't recognise becomes prominent after a split.
Steve Blake is a moderate/populist who did not agree with what Cromwell said and Cromwell was branded the the exteemist,well at least Cromwell had principle that would not be sold out on the alter of populism and neither should real nationalist we are in desperate times and it call for desperate measures to save our race and nation and not the policies of populism populisim will not save us.
If our people can not see that then they are not worth saving.
keith axon
Cromwell seemed to spend most of his time banging people round the head if he even THOUGHT they were not of his mindset.
He made sweeping assumptions about posters, on no evidence and was insulting about those he considered 'nazis' or those he thought posted on unsuitable forums! What a silly pillock.
Cromwell was autocratic and so far up himself I'm surprised he hasn't imploded....or should that be exploded.
I respect Steve Blake.
I'm sure Kenny Smith is a nationalist, but his man management skills are deplorable, his attitude is arrogant and bullying and he couldn't organise a coherent group if he tried.
Still I wish all nationalists well and especially those in court on Thursday.
Here's hoping Griff gets his butt kicked.... HARD
Here's Cromwell's latest statement on the BNF.
"Patience please
A brief preliminary statement
To all members both well and ill-intentioned. I will soon make a comprehensive statement regarding the particulars of the Forum split. Until I am ready; I ask for your understanding and patience. Unlike my opposites at newvoc forum; I am not given to making impetuous decisions; and wish to see how far VoC intends to take their unilaterally initiated offencive [sic] of defamation and slander against myself. I take it as a serious matter when I am targeted for any degree of disinformation and defamation, and take the concept of personal honour very seriously. Once I am convinced my detractors are intent on using their forum as a platform for both themselves and their members to attack my integrity, I will respond. And quite effectively I imagine. I hope it will not be the case.
Best regards; and try to keep this all in its proper perspective. These are just message boards. A few megabytes of data on a hard drive. To be quite honest, I have a hard time working up any enthusiasm for this sort of hollow drama.
C."
I will not comment myself but allow you to draw your own conclusions. ;-)
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