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SHOWDOWN AT THE HOEDOWN !
Its official, Griffin will expel anyone in opposition to him on the day, and is drafting in extra security to silence those who may verbally oppose him. Word is flooding in to NWN that things could get very nasty as Griffin refuses to state how the EGM will be held, and votes counted.
REMEMBER, 2/3rds are required to carry the vote in his favour, and just who will be counting that show of hands?
How many voting in Griffins favour will be REAL and current paid up members?
These are all questions that need asking, and answering.
Simon Darby, will be used as the gentle opposition on the day, all of it faked, as Darby is in full agreement with Griffin becoming the dictator.
This post will remain here till Monday 18th August by request of those many concerned members, and ex members who don’t wish to trawl through a myriad of posts.
If you are worried, or concerned, ask it here, we will try our utmost to bring you the correct, and truthful answers.
SHOWDOWN AT THE HOEDOWN !
Its official, Griffin will expel anyone in opposition to him on the day, and is drafting in extra security to silence those who may verbally oppose him. Word is flooding in to NWN that things could get very nasty as Griffin refuses to state how the EGM will be held, and votes counted.
REMEMBER, 2/3rds are required to carry the vote in his favour, and just who will be counting that show of hands?
How many voting in Griffins favour will be REAL and current paid up members?
These are all questions that need asking, and answering.
Simon Darby, will be used as the gentle opposition on the day, all of it faked, as Darby is in full agreement with Griffin becoming the dictator.
This post will remain here till Monday 18th August by request of those many concerned members, and ex members who don’t wish to trawl through a myriad of posts.
If you are worried, or concerned, ask it here, we will try our utmost to bring you the correct, and truthful answers.
132 comments:
The only reason Griffin wants this is so he can get on the Euro gravy train. He's convinced he will win, or has he been told he will win?
Is that EGM as in Egotistical Griffin's Mandate!
Looks to me as if Griffin is having a nervous breakdown. This constitutional change is not really necessary for a man who hasn't had to face a serious challenge to his leadership in years.
Will a BNP a third of the size be able to support him and the rest of his trollkin in the manner they have become accustomed? I doubt it.
The last chance saloon.
Q
What proviso has been made if more delegates turn up than the marque can accommodate,as a smaller than needed marque would suite the griffin stooges created on the day as thy will pack it after the chairmans speech ,and who would check there membership cards ?
and by this action effectively keeping out a section of genuine delegates from the EGM
Q
I would expect that any member can challenge any other member as to weather he or she,can prove they have been a fully paid up member for the last 12 months and not within the last month as if THE LATER IS THE CASE it would be looked up on as very suspicious as to them possibly being deliberately created as a member for just this occasion.
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I WOULD expect everyone one admitted to the EGM must have their membership card for inspection and validation upon entry.if not no entry would be allowed that would include all senior party officers COLLETT AND DERBY AND GRIFFIN etc,etc.
Q
I would expect that every delegate would have an up to date copy of the party CONSTITUTION of 2005.
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How is the vote to counted when a show of hands is given ,two to three scrutinizers i would expect, with the those apposing the motion to cross to the left and those in favor to cross to the right of the hall/marquee then to be counted.
Q
how much time will be allowed to delegates to discus the motion and to raise a point ? or is it to be a straight yes or no to the motion ?
Keith axon
Founder member.
Anonymous said...
The only reason Griffin wants this is so he can get on the Euro gravy train. He's convinced he will win, or has he been told he will win?
10 August 2008 23:34
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I believe that the state always rewards it's loyal servants.
Richard Chadfield
"Q
How is the vote to counted when a show of hands is given ,two to three scrutinizers i would expect, with the those apposing the motion to cross to the left and those in favor to cross to the right of the hall/marquee then to be counted."
This is something that worries me, how, and who, will count the show of hands?
Christ, I hate Griffin
I read somewhere that any debate will be strictly timed. All it would need is for Griffin to rattle on at length (Filibuster) about malcontents, vermin and reds and about how good he and his mottley crew are and any debate would be killed off, this must not be allowed to happen at all costs.
I allowed my membership to lapse, something I now painfully regret, so it is pointless in me going, security will not allow me entry. The only thing I can do is to wish you all at NWN the best of British luck, Britain IS depending on you. God be with you, you are in my prayers.
What needs to happen is what should have happened under JT, a new party has to be formed and Gri££in and his cliche of MISCREANTS left to fester and rip each other of.
The BNP is lost and facts have to be faced. Time is running out for Britain. What state will Britain be in 4 years time, when the next chance to get a decent leader of the BNP comes about??
It's Eddy Butler and Mark Collett that are speaking out against Griffin's 4 year leadership challenge proposal.
Make no mistake about it - the time has come NOW to get REAL and SERIOUS about the Griffin Problem.
We must start organising and that means procuring the services of a capable lawyer as any constitutional rigging will need to be legally challenged.
Griffin knows that his opponents may have not have the nous to do this but we must demonstrate that we do.
There is no other way.
If he wants to play by deceipt and illegality and start bending the Constitution then we must be prepared to challenge that and start taking him to task over it.
Words are not enough.
It is ACTION that counts - and only the most appropriate action too.
NWN must begin working as a United Front with all other opponents of Griffin - the Voice of Change group and the Auty group. A fund must be established to channel resources to begin a legal challenge and a sympathetic solicitor must be procured.
A meeting must be held to begin this and start the ball rolling.
Christ, I hate Griffin
11 August 2008 00:49
Stand in line, you ain't the only one
"The BNP is lost and facts have to be faced. Time is running out for Britain. What state will Britain be in 4 years time, when the next chance to get a decent leader of the BNP comes about??
11 August 2008 11:30"
This is true, and Griffin has squandered the opportunities of the past few years. We need a real working class spokesperson, not a silver spooned jumped up con artist who fakes sympathy for those he holds in contempt. Griffin must go, or we must reform en masse into something new
"It's Eddy Butler and Mark Collett that are speaking out against Griffin's 4 year leadership challenge proposal.
11 August 2008 11:46"
I heard Collett has bottled it because of Golding. Collett was going to be opposed, but now he's worried Golding will replace him if he's outspoken and against Griffin.
How did the reds get a pic of Griffin cooking? He is clearly not a good judge of character to let reds get so close to him.
Just got this off the BNP site.
"Saturday 16 August
10.30 Opening address - Simon Darby
11.00 Speech - Jonathan Bowden
12.00 Speech - Marc Abramsson, leader, National Democrats, Sweden
13.00 Question Time with panel, questions from audience, chairman Jonathan Bowden
14.00 Speech “The Mighty Oak” - Arthur Kemp
15.00 Mock Press Interview, Volunteers from audience, hosted by Jonathan Bowden
16.00 The Great Debate: “This house believes that the Bill to ban foxhunting should be repealed.”
For: Nick Griffin and Joan Bridge-Taylor;
Against: Arthur Kemp and Peter Mullins.
This is not policy, just a formal debate to set an example on debate levels for the BNP annual conference.
17.00 Speech “Politics in the Community” - Richard Lumby
18.00 Quiz “Weakest Link” - Kevin Scott, Quizmaster
Sunday 17 August
10.00 Sunday Service - Rev. Robert West
11.00 Speech - Richard Barnbrook
12.00 Speech - Mark Wilson, Australia - “The Impact of the BNP on nationalist politics in Australia.”
13.00 Speech - Peter Strudwick - “The EU. The BNP Fightback”
14.00 Closing Address - Nick Griffin
15.30 EGM - All members invited to attend to discuss constitutional changes outlined here."
Bowden seems to be doing an awful lot, but all the others who used to speak were expelled, I guess thats why?
"17.00 Speech “Politics in the Community” - Richard Lumby"
Community politics! LMFAO
Lumby, has convictions for ABH, GBH, being drunk and disorderly, yeah, great for the community.
"It's Eddy Butler and Mark Collett that are speaking out against Griffin's 4 year leadership challenge proposal."
So Griffin is effectively in control of both sides of the debate? Nice touch!
I'm glad Richard Edmunds and Valerie Tyndall are going. They take shit from no one.
Taken from the proposed constitutional changes on the BNP website:
S.4.9. If an outgoing National Chairman is a paid employee of the party and either does not wish to remain as such or is not required as such by the new incumbent, he shall receive severance pay in line with the statutory requirement, plus one month for each year served up to a total of eight years, and one week extra for each year thereafter.
I think that one eyed corrupt bastard knows he's on the way out!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"It's Eddy Butler and Mark Collett that are speaking out against Griffin's 4 year leadership challenge proposal.
11 August 2008 11:46"
I heard Collett has bottled it because of Golding. Collett was going to be opposed, but now he's worried Golding will replace him if he's outspoken and against Griffin.
11 August 2008 12:24
Why would Cockroach bottle it when it has been set up by Gri££in himself?
Eddy 'Election Guru' Butler is one of Griffin's biggest arse lickers. He's the one who wants half-breeds in the Party and dated an asian girl when he was at Uni. Even his long suffering partner Sue Clapp will confirm that.
I have to admit, Griffin is just damned annoying. We have massive domestic fuel rises, high unemployment looming on the horizon, homelessness and repossessions, and all he talks about is Muslims, and Islamification. He is purposely missing every single important issue effecting the working class in this country, and has firmly put the party in a rut of only standing for anti immigration. The only people who vote solely on those issues are people with an axe to grind about the colour of their neighbours, they are not people with staying power and are driven by spite instead of a wish to see our country transformed into something productive, and a better place to live.
Griffin and Darby are not political, they are happy to keep the party in a rut where all it is, is a fundraising enterprise for lining their own pockets, all done on the backs of the disenfranchised and the poorly educated. Anyone remotely interested in their communities is axed from the party and smeared. Griffin is paranoid, spiteful and downright evil, and if we cannot remove him with a vote, we should remove him via the courts.
We need to start a fund to get Griffin out!
Why does Griffin want to introduce postal voting? I thought the party was against this because of corruption, and we all know Jacksons vote was fixed because of the postal vote. Griffin added envelopes that hadn't even seen the inside of a post box.
We need Chris Jackson for leader, but Chris needs to start showing his face about the country if he's serious.
"I think that one eyed corrupt bastard knows he's on the way out!
11 August 2008 14:38"
That's exactly what I think. I hear his book is out at Christmas. The dumb bastards will be lining up to purchase his swan song filled with lies and bullshit.
It wont matter if clot Collet speaks for, agianst or not at all, I have heard he is for the chop no matter
Griffin must be desperate to go running to Bowden. He must know many people see Bowden a credible challenger to him.
"It wont matter if clot Collet speaks for, agianst or not at all, I have heard he is for the chop no matter
11 August 2008 15:41"
He's not the only one. Griffin has been discussing chopping Reynolds.
"That's exactly what I think. I hear his book is out at Christmas. The dumb bastards will be lining up to purchase his swan song filled with lies and bullshit.
11 August 2008 14:59"
I'll buy a copy to wipe my arse on, and then I'll send it back to the one eyed lying corrupt wanker.
The Griffin book is going to be called 'Nick's book of Ethics' and it will contain only the sleeve.
We all seem so concerned about "Will Griffin fiddle this?" Will Griffin fiddle that?" - we have taken our eye off the ball. The stooges in the crowd are saying "He wants four years between elections" "He wants severance pay" etc etc
YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT!
Griffin has stolen the BNP!
"YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT!
Griffin has stolen the BNP!
11 August 2008 18:28"
And, he's just going to have to give it back again.
"The Griffin book is going to be called 'Nick's book of Ethics' and it will contain only the sleeve.
11 August 2008 18:27"
LMAO
Anonymous ES said...
Eddy 'Election Guru' Butler is one of Griffin's biggest arse lickers. He's the one who wants half-breeds in the Party and dated an asian girl when he was at Uni. Even his long suffering partner Sue Clapp will confirm that.
Yeah poor Sue also has to put up with Eddy f*cking around with whores and getting a young bnp member pregnant (she aborted it, but those at last years RWB would have noticed the bump).
Butler is a lowlife piece of shit!
"Griffin has been discussing chopping Reynolds.
11 August 2008 16:58"
I've also heard that. What a laugh if Griffin does it after RWB when the chump has been awake for 72hrs LOL
Don't forget to take your cameras !
"Don't forget to take your cameras !
11 August 2008 20:46"
Yes, lets capture a Griffin moment, and remember, whoever is flavour of RWB this year, will be chopped by next year.
What is this about POSTAL VOTES ?
There must not be any postal voting allowed because that will be Griffins back up if it goes against him on the day.
He seems to have every angel covered does he not ?
He is 5 steps ahead of every one every time.
P.P.P.P.P.P
proper planning prevents a piss poor performance ,an old army adage.
And he is noes it full well.
keith axon
Founder member.
griffin's book is going to have to be full of lies and smears: a. to justify his u-turns and sell-outs, and to attack all the "comrades" he later stabbed in the back (and so they become "reds").
Will he mention the fascist navy, gandalf press, unsellable cars... and all his other cheap stunts.
And is there any truth in the rumour that Michaela Mackenzie (Events Organiser) has had to sleep her way to the top....and with whom?
'The Griffin book is going to be called 'Nick's book of Ethics' and it will contain only the sleeve.'
Is Griffin going to sell this book out of the back of the "Truth Truck?"
Should it be Ethics or Ethnics in the title?
Truth Truck! If the issue wasn't so serious I would be laughing my man boobs off.
"Will he mention the fascist navy, gandalf press, unsellable cars... and all his other cheap stunts.
11 August 2008 22:05"
Gandalf press?
"And is there any truth in the rumour that Michaela Mackenzie (Events Organiser) has had to sleep her way to the top....and with whom?
11 August 2008 22:07"
I doubt it, she's a silly old tart who imagines people would actually want to stalk her. Beware of her, anything you say is instantly repeated to Griffin or Darby, and we all know Griffin chops people who tell tales because he knows they can't be trusted to keep secrets if they go blabbing to him about others. She'll be on the scrap-heap in under 2 years. Her punishment for being an ass kisser
We need to start a fund to get Griffin out!
11 August 2008 14:49
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This is the most pertinent posting for a while. If we wish to get OUR BNP back (yes it is our BNP and not Nick Griffin's BNP. We pay the bills , we stand in the elections, we recruit new members,we work the streets and estates) we will,in my opinion, have to go to the courts and that means very substantial money. Given the number of disafected members and ex members raising the necessary money should not be an insumountable task. I believe that it will prove to be a necessary task.
Richard Chadfield
The whole EGM thing is so staggeringly corrupt and illegal that it's just begging for a lawsuit.
Gary Raikes was activist of the year runner up last year. Rumours are abound that he will win Griffins cock sucker of the year this time, and will also be a contender in I have potted black and liked it awards.
Can posters please keep their messages clean. We don't like deleting posts, and editing them is very difficult.
Thank you.
"This is the most pertinent posting for a while. If we wish to get OUR BNP back (yes it is our BNP and not Nick Griffin's BNP. We pay the bills , we stand in the elections, we recruit new members,we work the streets and estates) we will,in my opinion, have to go to the courts and that means very substantial money. Given the number of disafected members and ex members raising the necessary money should not be an insumountable task. I believe that it will prove to be a necessary task.
Richard Chadfield
11 August 2008 23:36"
Only one problem with that, Richard. Those who really give have always been in the minority.
The Walkers story is true, ask K smith etc, and I think Griffins wife seen the lady involved.
Have a dig around, you will find out.
"Yeah poor Sue also has to put up with Eddy f*cking around with whores and getting a young bnp member pregnant (she aborted it, but those at last years RWB would have noticed the bump).
Butler is a lowlife piece of shit!
11 August 2008 20:14"
I'm not a YBNP member, and I've never been pregnant, so keep your lies to yourself.
Michaela Mackenzie had an affair with Gri££in (talk about desperation. Then Jackie Gri££in when off and slept with two (equally desperate) blokes to punish him! This is a fact.
Interesting that Butler is being slagged off. Is it because hes the only one genuinely opposed to Griffins 4 year rule?
Griffin’s dictatorship – backed-up with his hired muscle and the police.
Many members and ex-members alike have been in contact with the Challenge for Leadership team, and suggested that we attend this year's RWB en-mass in order to rally the growing support for the removal of Griffin from within it.
This course of action would not be beneficial to the goal of removing him; it would in fact play directly into his hands. Griffin would like nothing more than to attempt to once again label those that have dared to stand up to him as ‘Searchlight backed Red’s’ etc.
We have been reliably informed that Party security has been handed a list of those persons "his Lordship" has deemed as undesirable to his weekend of Griffin-Worship.
Chairman’s Orders
Anyone on that list will be denied access to the site by security operating under ‘Chairman’s orders’ and then reported to the Police and possibly even arrested for Breach of the Peace to spend the rest of the day in a Derbyshire Police cell.
Griffin would then simply lump these patriots in with the assortment of 'Reds' and Communist types that are sure to hold a protest this year. Basically everyone outside of planet-Griffin would then simply be tarred as being ‘backed by Searchlight, blah blah blah’.
He would then make great play of it at every opportunity thereafter, about how we, the Challenge for Leadership team, tried to ruin the RWB but were stopped by his 'wonderful and intuitive leadership!’
We must continue to use our heads if we are to remove him.
The RT Reverand s stevens.
I will be attending with my dog collar and habit.
It looks like the reds will be getting some legal letters.
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RWB toilet supplier targetted
Derbyshire Antifascists | 03.08.2008 11:57 | Anti-racism | Nottinghamshire | Sheffield
Over the weekend the company who supply portable toilets to the BNP Red White and Blue event were targetted by militant antifascists. All companies who support the RWB can expect to be targetted also. If you make money by helping the BNP, we will cost you money!
STS of Chesterfield, who happily process the BNPs shit (and we all know they are full of it) by servicing the RWB event with portable bogs, had their depot in Pottery Lane East, Chesterfield, targetted. Their gates we locked and glued and the slogan "bnp = shite" graffited.
STS have their office at 47 Rockingham Close Chesterfield S40 1JE, fone 01246 278754 and 07889 832076. Get in contact and tell them what you think of their support of the BNP.
Campaigns against all supporters of the BNP event will continue. We will stop the fascists!
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03.08.2008 13:33
Anyone know any other suppliers and supporters of the RWB festival?
If there's a target that's based throughout the UK this would be great to know...some of us southern antifascists are looking for some action down here against the scumfest. Or could Bristol Antifa help us out with some alternative info?
Ace job for the action, tertiary targeting is the way forward against the fash.
2008 = THE YEAR TO SMASH THE FASCISTS
southern antifascist
e-mail: near these militants...
Homepage: http://bristolantifa.org
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http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/nottinghamshire/2008/08/405243.html
Just heard that Purging the droid off Stormfront is/was Phil Andrews !
Yet another of the Third Way nerks that Griffin loves so well.
Griffin is in the same mould as Le Pen. Just a matter of time before Griffin completely sells the BNP out.
Le Pen sells party HQ to Chinese
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7555861.stm
"Just heard that Purging the droid off Stormfront is/was Phil Andrews !
Yet another of the Third Way nerks that Griffin loves so well.
12 August 2008 18:51"
Who told you that?
A disgrace.
How can an anti immigration party sell an historical building to foreigners? Let this be a warning to BNP members of Griffins intentions when given enough power. As long as they've got money, they'll have anyone.
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National Front spokesman insisted the agreement was not contradictory to the party’s long-standing anti-foreigner views.
“As long as the buyer has a good reputation and is financially irreproachable, his nationality doesn’t matter,” he said.
http://www.irishnews.com/break.asp?tbrk=brk&par=brk&catid=5834&subcatid=642&storyid=373358
"Just heard that Purging the droid off Stormfront is/was Phil Andrews !"
If this is true then this has to be the end of Griffin!
This is not just Pat Harrington and his "civic nationalism" we are talking about here. Andrews these days is a 100% anti.
Listen to this, from Andrews's own website and blog:
"The aim of the ICG (Isleworth Community Group) was to unite the community by building a vibrant community organisation - membership of which was open to anyone, irrespective of political, social or ethnic background - and one which acted outside the influence of any of the political groups."
"...in 1991 he and a fellow officer of Liberation folded the organisation and severed any remaining links with the far-right. Over the ensuing months he rejected racist and fascist ideas outright and publicly declared as much."
"As Executive Lead Member for Community Safety Councillor Phil Andrews chairs the campaigning and co-ordinating group Hounslow Against Racial Harassment, and has taken the lead in initiatives against racism, homophobia and hate crime around the borough. He recently presented the Cantle Report on Community Cohesion to to the Council Executive and has spoken on the threat of racism and his experiences as a former far-right activist at national venues alongside senior political figures from all of the major parties."
"Speaking personally I take a much more optimistic view. For the Mela, in fact, places South Asian culture within the context of a Western environment. The layout of the stalls, which purveyed a welcome mixture of ethnic and indigenous wares, was more akin to that of a London market than an Eastern bazaar. Even the music which blared out rather too loudly from the huge stage under the direction of the DJ "Crash" (last year's Master of Ceremonies, the hilariously named "Abdul Cool", obviously had a prior engagement) came across as a curious blend of traditional bhangra and that repetitive rapping stuff that the kids seem to go for today. On the bus going home it struck me, from a Community Cohesion perspective, what an opportunity we had missed a couple of years back with all that pernicious St. George's Day nonsense. Imagine 75,000 people attending a St. George's Day festival, bedecked with English flags and populated by British people of all cultural and ethnic backgrounds, with food, music and dance from South Asia, China, the Caribbean, as well as from the UK. A festival which would flaunt the proud Englishness of the diverse society which we enjoy today. What better way could there possibly be of putting across the message that we are an integrated community, contemptuous of prejudice and disharmony, diverse yet cohesive, brought together by the common values that unite us in a society in which Everybody Matters?"
"Like RETI (Refugee Employment and Training Initiative), the TCC (Tamil Community Centre) is a superbly organised group seeking to achieve Community Cohesion through tackling areas of disadvantage, in the TCC's case those experienced by members of the small Tamil community in Hounslow. It provides access to health, education and a positive social environment, and has done so thus far without even asking the local authority to financial assistance in any form. It is groups like TCC and RETI which I envisage forming the backbone of our proposed cohesion forum, which will enable organisations to work together, and with the local authority and other strategic partners, with a view to creating conditions that will assist in the building of Community Cohesion in our borough."
"whilst Maguire (Kevin Maguire, Daily Mirror) acknowledged that my membership of the National Front was something which belonged to the past, my denial of the Holocaust (which comes as part of the deal with senior membership of a fascist party such as the NF) belonged to the present, which it most certainly doesn't."
"I personally have a history of far-Right involvement, having been a member of the National Front for twelve years between 1977 and 1989, and of a locally-based grouplet affiliated to the International Third Position for two years after that. Whilst I regret my past associations and assert that my views today are as far removed from those I held two decades ago as they could possibly be, I draw upon them and the unique understanding which they give me in my work today."
"We should not mainstream racism, but at the same time we must be prepared to listen to and engage those genuine concerns which it exploits. It is this pragmatism which should inform our dealings with the far-Right. Being pragmatic does not mean that we abandon fundamental principles. But where we take a position we should do so for a reason, and not at the behest of some mantra chanted idiot-style but the logic behind it only half understood. One of the slogans which anti-racists were very fond of during my time as a far-Right activist was "No Platform". It meant that under no circumstances would we legitimise racism by engaging its proponents in debate of any kind. "No Platform" undoubtedly has its merits. I would not have been happy to have had representatives of the BNP or NF sitting at the Conference, far less sitting at the platform and making a speech. That would have been quite absurd."
"Diversity is a fact of life. People look different, dress differently, eat different foods, pray to different gods, or pray to the same god in different ways. This is not to be despised or resisted. It would be a boring world indeed if everybody looked the same, acted the same and thought in the same way. The key to Community Cohesion is in accepting and respecting diversity, whilst subordinating it in the larger scheme of things to the much more important qualities which we have in common, to our common humanity against which all our differences are inconsequential. On the other side of the coin if we want people to be the same then we must ensure that people are treated the same. It is a necessary prerequisite of Community Cohesion that everybody has the same life opportunities. We cannot say to people that they must be like us, and then deny them the opportunities which we have. We cannot expect people to buy into a concept of "Britishness" while there are people, and institutions, that refuse to accept them as British with all the rights and duties which that entails."
"In order that we can create the conditions for Community Cohesion we need to tackle discrimination and inequality where it truly exists. We need to tackle hate-crime head-on. In Hounslow we are now doing this proactively through Hounslow Against Racial Harassment, a multi-agency partnership driven by a truly excellent team of officers who it is my absolute pleasure and good fortune to work alongside. There must be no tolerance of hate-crime whatsoever. Our watchword must be: "Where there is ignorance we educate, where there is hatred we legislate". It is also vitally important that we take race out of party politics. Sadly it is our experience that it is not only the far-Right parties who are prepared to fan the flames of racism for political advantage. There should be an agreement between the democratic political parties and groups not to do this."
"For en route to said canteen I encountered a number of Somali ladies and gentlemen, including my good friend Hassan Isse, who naturally assumed that I had turned up to attend the Annual General Meeting of the Refugee Employment & Training Initiative (RETI), which I had promised to do and to which I had been looking forward very much."
"Initiatives such as RETI should provoke healthy debate amongst those of us who hold the view of the current administration at the London Borough of Hounslow that there should be more emphasis on what unites the people of Hounslow, a thoroughly multi-cultural community with over 120 languages spoken, rather than on what divides us."
"We should make our support for the Voluntary Sector work for Community Cohesion, just as our predecessors made it work for themselves. RETI is one of many groups which, if successful, will pave the way for a united, cohesive and integrated Hounslow. But as it blossoms from beyond its purely Somali origins and reaches out to other newly-arrived groups I can foresee this particular organisation, possessed as it is of dedicated, astute, charismatic and highly intelligent leadership, becoming a very major player in the Community Cohesion work which is so important to me and to all of my colleagues. These people deserve all the help and support we can give them."
And in case you wondered what Griffin's old mate looks like, here's a photo of him with some of his friends:
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/mobile/news_mod_home/news_mod_year/news_mod_month/news_mod_show?year1=2007&month1=12&NewsID=31256
The one in front of Andrews is Baroness Sayeedi Warsi, a Conservative Shadow Minister for immigration.
If this story is true and this person is the latest recruit to Griffin's little team of advisors, I don't see how any BNP member can carry on giving the bastard their support. Just what the f*** is going on here???
Mark my words:
All political parties in this land are controlled by the EU!!!!!!
They have created "AN ILLUSION OF DEMOCRACY".
Henceforth,the BNP leadership should be called "QUISLINGS"
"Just heard that Purging the droid off Stormfront is/was Phil Andrews !
Yet another of the Third Way nerks that Griffin loves so well.
That would be interersting if they joined the BNP. His party has 6 councillors, and a mayor
I remember PTDs favourite response to a difficult Griffin question was "Membership Number?"
I have a question.
Griffin is always saying that the party is reformed, and that those who are expelled are nazis and fascists, and cranks, so why does he do this?
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=15745
A very good question, and I'll be interested to see the answer.
Nick Griffin, is always banging on about being moderate and acceptable to the general voters, so why invite these people to a family event that could set his moderate party back years?
NWN blew the gaffe on the Third Way plonkers and Griffin, over 12 months ago if you check back on this blog.
We said then that Graham Williamson had resurfaced after Pat Harrington had connected up Griffin.
So this further source indicating that Phil Andrews was in fact PTD, has a certain plausibility.
Quote "Their gates we locked and glued and the slogan "bnp = shite" graffited"
WOW SUPER-GLUE, The Anti-fa are really up on the tactics of harrassment...The old M/cr NF were there 30 years ago...and then some. The likes of Hann and Tilzey must be wetting themselves laughing! or cringing!
I can hardly belive Phil Andrews has changed so much, he was a REAL activist in M/cr in the early 1980's while at M/cr Poly. Used to be a good source of info....pity if he has changed :-(
Looking at the COVERT webshite it looks as though they must be wanting rid of Collete (the wannabee kid shagger) and Griffin, as they are trying to have a clean up of nationalisim.
The six different catergories pretty well match the head table of the BNP.
I wonder what the Covert team think of the Griffin blue eyed Walker brothers banging the same woman at the conference last year.
Its good that they have a good long hard think and decided that the top tree of the BNP are corrupt, faggots unfit to lead our movement.
Gri££ins Little Maggot
Phil Andrwes wife/"partner" was an Asian. That's why he dropped 'racial' politics... and that's why his residents association group [evolved from South isleworth NF by stages] included Asians, i think Muslim ones too.
Hardly BNP material. I mean... anything but Muslims.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Will he mention the fascist navy, gandalf press, unsellable cars... and all his other cheap stunts.
11 August 2008 22:05"
Gandalf press?
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Gandalf press was a printing press in the mid 80s that was exposed by the Grauniad if i recall.
griffin blamed the "Flag group NF" (Wingfield et al) for leaking the fact to the media in order to scupper "the radicals"
All this and more is in Griffin's booklet ATTEMPTED MURDER which is available online somewhere or other.
The Covert cunt's are the last of Griffins supporters. Those two are tarred too much by their arselicking of Griffin and the threats they make on Griffins behalf.
They are also on Griffins payroll.
"They are also on Griffins payroll.
13 August 2008 01:23"
We know Jock from Oldham, Griffins security guard with feet in two camps, is claiming incapacity benefit. What is it the BNP say about scum who rip off benefits, and crime? Jocks benefit money could have gone to a genuine disabled person, eh Jock?
Very silly of you to be photographed on the BNP site being a security guard and engaged in a tug of war while disabled, Jock, and you have the cheek to go on about criminals.
Griffinite arse licker Jock Shearer is not going to the RWB this year .
It will be the first one he has missed.
Something to do with there NOT being a bar at the RWB this year I hear.
In mentioning Phil Andrews you have undermined the best ongoing anti-Griffin operation to date.
Thanks for nothing.
"In mentioning Phil Andrews you have undermined the best ongoing anti-Griffin operation to date.
Thanks for nothing.
13 August 2008 07:13"
Anti Griffin!
On the contrary, he's shown that the BNP is now largely made up of people better suited to purchasing copies of Searchlight. The BNP, is finished.
"Something to do with there NOT being a bar at the RWB this year I hear.
13 August 2008 02:07"
What happened to the "Buy a beer mat, and get free beer"?
Have the C.U.N.T.S lost the plot?
Everything they've written and done puts them into the same categories as the people they're slagging off. Adolf Hitler has nothing to do with British politics, and it should remain that way. I often wonder if the C.U.N.T.S is a LUAF front.
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They ain't alright just because they're White
The words of a respected nationalist
I've been involved in the so-called "right-wing" for a number of years now, but when I step back and look at our so-called movement, especially more recently, I can't help saying to myself, "Why am I surrounded by so many 'misfits'?"
I'm sure that if you are honest, you would have to agree with me, so let's go back to the Third Reich and look at the differences between then and now. Then, the people who flocked to the National Socialist cause, were young idealists fighting for what they believed in: their race and their nation. Self-sacrifice was commonplace and heroism was an everyday occurrence, both before the victory in 1933 when the Brownshirts fought the reds, losing over 25,000 men in the streets alone, and afterwards on the battlefields of World War 2 when legions of men from every European nation were decimated time and time again in the Crusade for Europe.
You just can not compare these men with the dregs that call themselves "right-wingers" today. National Socialists then were the elite of our race, the cream of European youth. Most of the so-called "right-wingers" around today wouldn't have been fit to dig the latrine pits for the Waffen SS yet they claim to represent the White race and declare themselves to be the so-called vanguard.
Why is there such a difference I hear you ask? The problem now is that since the war, pro-White groups have been desperate for the numbers and will accept absolutely anyone just because they're White and call themselves racists. It doesn't matter what sort of lowlife they are as long as they are "our way". Quite simply, the Nationalist organisations that exist at the moment will accept anyone. The only condition of membership they seem to have is the ability to pay an annual subscription.
Obviously not everyone on the so-called "right-wing" falls short of the high standards of the past: there are people out there who believe in our cause and are willing to stand up and fight for it but let's take a look at some of the "problem cases" who are attracted to movements like ours so you will be able to recognise them and then deal with them effectively.
1) The cowards: these unfortunately make up the bulk of the right-wing. Blokes who are nothing by themselves join up to be part of a gang, give it the right large one when they are at a Nationalist event, sticking the boot in when the numbers are on our side but in reality are the sort of blokes who would watch a couple of spades push in front of them in a queue and do nothing about it, just look away. You all know the sort; without the beer for "Dutch courage" they're nothing.
2) The inadequates and losers: again the "right" is full of these types. They join because no-one else will have them. They don't fit into any mainstream groups and so they turn to the groups that accept anyone - the "right-wing" - where they have instant friends and drinking buddies.
3) Faggots: because of the nature of the movement, which is comprised of a lot of young blokes, queers tend to be attracted to it for deviant reasons. Some of these perverts will claim to be racist but don't be fooled by this: they are nothing more than subhuman degenerates. Most of the faggots who worm their way into Nationalist organisations often find themselves being very quickly booted out - quite literally.
4) Passing-trade: these are people who suddenly appear in the movement out of nowhere, have a short burst of activism, and then disappear as quickly as they arrived. These people may just be looking for a new experience - something different to the mundanity of their everyday lives - or they may be among us for more sinister purposes. Whatever the reason, they are a complete waste of space and should never be trusted.
5) The sickos and wierdos: these are the sort of freaks who believe in the Hitler=Evil equation that is spread by the media. These types are usually involved in "Satanism", cults, paedophilia, you name it. Luckily these people are very few in number but always prove to be the most embarrassing when they are exposed in the press etc, and we are all then tarred with the same brush. These people do not belong among us; if they hadn't infiltrated the "right-wing" they would probably be in some sort of cult. Our enemies love deviants such as these (often because they share the same interests) and will often encourage them to join us.
6) Drunks: mentally, these people are among the weakest specimens of humanity. They are in their element in the "right wing" because most of it is just a big drinking club.
So there it is: you may not want to hear it but it's true. The "right wing" accepts anyone and everyone - it has NO standards. We set ourselves up as though we are better than everyone else and talk about the general population as though they are all scum. Well the truth is that, percentage-wise, we most probably have far more scumbags in our midst than exist in the so-called "non-racist" general population.
The "right-wing" has a choice to make: either it cleans up its act and introduces some standards to ensure the quality of its recruits or it carries on being a freak-show for the liberals to laugh at on the TV. Personally, I don't want it to be the latter and I doubt if you do. It's up to all you decent activists out there to make a stand and help clean up the movement. If that means a significant drop in numbers then so be it. It is far better to have a small but hard core of decent, clean-living, committed activists than a sprawling membership of inadequates.
The C.U.N.T.S. comment would seem to be an on the button description of themselves and their friends. Perhaps they are sharing in Griffin's nervous breakdown?
"Nick Griffin, is always banging on about being moderate and acceptable to the general voters, so why invite these people to a family event that could set his moderate party back years?
12 August 2008 22:08"
Yes, I see what you mean!
"Griffin and his party are openly racist, running a platform to prevent all non-whites from immigrating to England. During the appearance at MSU, Griffin made claims that parts of the Holocaust were fabricated by the Allied powers. He claimed the chimneys at Auschwitz were added by the Allied troops who liberated the infamous death camp."
http://www.michiganmessenger.com/2084/yaf-members-take-a-crack-at-local-elections
"Griffin made claims that parts of the Holocaust were fabricated by the Allied powers. He claimed the chimneys at Auschwitz were added by the Allied troops who liberated the infamous death camp."
Evidence that Griffin is as political as a castrated newt. What the hell does, road works, bin collections, library services, and council budgets have to do with chimneys at Auschwitz?
What did, or didn't happen is not a matter for politics, its a matter for historians.
"What did, or didn't happen is not a matter for politics, its a matter for historians.
13 August 2008 17:27"
This is why nationalism is doomed to fail. They just can't seperate the two, and seem only to keen to wear their hearts on their sleeves.
Can Griffin turn anyone away? I've been told he will turn away anti Griffinites and have them arrested as troublemakers.
Interesting story from Lancaster Unity
"August 13, 2008
A conspiracy revealed and more sackings and purges to come after the BNP's EGM
Posted by Antifascist 33 Comment (s)
Here we are again, on the run-up to another Red, White and Blue disaster, with the BNP in disarray and Nick Griffin's leadership looking at its rockiest since the heady days of December 2007, when Sadie Graham and co were booted unceremoniously out of the party amid allegations of email-tampering and back-stabbing that led (eventually) to Manchester Civil Court, though not to any kind of resolution.
Following the December rebellion, when dozens of party activists stood down in support of the Graham clique, there were plans to get rid of Griffin flying about all over the place - talks of a new party, leadership challenges, legal challenges etc - all of which came to naught as the rebels failed to provide the leadership that the rebels and their supporters so desperately needed. Instead, Colin Auty, little known inside the party except for his 'music', pushed incessantly by the failing Great White Records, was persuaded to stand in a pointless leadership campaign, doomed to failure even if it had managed to get off the ground - which it didn't.
This utterly pointless challenge by Auty has inevitably brought Griffin's paranoia to a head and has led directly to his much-publicised attempt to twist the rules of the party to stop leadership challenges being annual and make them quadrennial or at the very least, biennial, thus cutting down on his chances of losing his lucrative post with its almost endless potential for money-making scams at the expense of a gullible membership. The RWB will see an Extraordinary General Meeting take place which will change the face of the BNP and consolidate Griffin's position until he can (as he fully expects to) join the gravy-train of the European Parliament next year without having to worry about distractions like Colin Auty popping up out of nowhere.
This EGM is a direct result of the failure of the Challenge for Leadership rebel team to provide proper leadership when it was most needed, whether inside the party or out. Sadie Graham was extremely well-placed to form a new party immediately following her sacking, to stand against the corruption and financial mismanagement that is endemic in Griffin's BNP but she and her team chose, for some incomprehensible reason that eluded most of her supporters, to continue to give her direct support to the existing BNP - though a BNP without the likes of Griffin, the notoriously-arrogant Mark Collett and bumbling idiot Dave Hannam, both of the latter being much-loathed even within the party itself.
Graham's partner Matt Single, former member of the BNP's security team and an unwitting stooge in another of Griffin's scams (this time to teach people evasive and defensive driving just in case someone attempts to kidnap them - for a fee, naturally), who writes as 'Integrity' on the rebel's Challenge for Leadership blog, has taken centre-stage in the fight against Griffin, banging on incessantly and impotently about how bad he is at running the BNP and how corrupt he is - but this appears to be anger that's still simmering away at the treatment he and Graham received from his former comrades in the security team, who raided the Single/Graham home with the willing help, it has emerged, of Nina Brown - a former friend who had been angling to step into Graham's job, or something similar, for some time. With friends like that, who the hell needs enemies.
Yes, folks, there is NO loyalty to one's friends in the BNP. All this rubbish about the party being one big happy family or like a community is, as you suspected, bullshit pumped out by the ton via the speeches and publications with which the BNP relentlessly showers its membership.
You may recall that the story that did the rounds following the raid was that Griffin's henchmen (Martin Reynolds, who we hear is for the chop next, and his fellow Kray brothers, sorry, security team members) were outside the Graham home, having gone there to reclaim items that were actually owned by the BNP (or so they claimed). Much to their surprise, ho-ho, neither Graham nor Single were at home. While pondering what to do, who should appear but Nina Brown, a then friend of the couple and handy keyholder for when they were away and the cat needed to be fed, who let the security gorillas in to take the goodies.
The truth has now begun to emerge and it turns out to be quite different. In fact, the whole event was stage-managed by Nick Griffin with the collusion of Nina Brown and Reynolds' security team. It was known that Graham and Single were off to attend the South East Christmas social (along with Griffin himself) that weekend - they all knew that - so Reynolds and a team made up of heavies from Leeds and Birmingham met up on the motorway, travelled to Brinsley and arranged to meet with Nina Brown who opened the front door for them and watched as they took the PC (which didn't belong to the BNP), the laptop, a mass of paperwork, printers and so on, piled it into the vehicle and shoved off. And why the need to do all this surreptitiously? Because Single is a thug and if he'd been on the premises, particularly with a pregnant Sadie Graham getting all hot and bothered over what was happening, he'd have caused something of a ruckus which might have done the party even more damage in the long run.
Nick Griffin has no sense of loyalty, even to those who devote themselves to him and/or the party. For years, Graham and Single helped Griffin to hold his position at the top of the BNP and did nothing except remain loyal to him while others were purged, expelled or forced to resign. Then it was their turn and they went the same way. Martin Reynolds has followed Griffin around for years, waddling beside him like an overweight but faithful dog, ready to plod into action should one of his many enemies take a baseball bat to Griffin. And now we hear that Reynolds is on his way out. Nina Brown, who has already earned herself a reputation as an utterly useless parish councillor, is also rumoured to be out of favour and on her way out of the party. And thus is loyalty rewarded in Nick Griffin's BNP.
Even worse is to come. We hear from reliable sources that the EGM is rigged to produce the result that Griffin wants (no great surprise there), postal voting is now allowed, despite (or perhaps because of) the BNP's repeated claim that postal vote fraud is both easy and common, and that those who vote against Griffin's proposals will soon find themselves out on their communal ear.
So no change there then. "
"Even worse is to come. We hear from reliable sources that the EGM is rigged to produce the result that Griffin wants (no great surprise there), postal voting is now allowed, despite (or perhaps because of) the BNP's repeated claim that postal vote fraud is both easy and common, and that those who vote against Griffin's proposals will soon find themselves out on their communal ear."
I really hope Griffin has introduced postal voting for the EGM, because, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
It must be a show of hands, and a piece of paper is NOT a show of hands.
I think it's time to start ratching up the LEGAL FUND to BOOT GRIFFIN OUT
Nina Brown appears to be a real cow. Mckenzie will be next.
"Can Griffin turn anyone away? I've been told he will turn away anti Griffinites and have them arrested as troublemakers.
13 August 2008 19:43"
No, and if he does, let us know.
anonymous said
Nina Brown appears to be a real cow.
What do you mean appears to be?
I hear Class War have joined LU, and that they will attempt to cause trouble.
Build a bonfire
Build a bonfire
Put Class War on the top
Put the LU in the middle
And burn the fucking lot
http://www.24dash.com/news/Communities/2008-08-13-Police-to-control-anti-fascist-demonstration-at-BNP-festival
What a silly slapper. Long after she's dead and gone, Blake and Elgar will still be remembered. A talentless load of bollocks, and pathetic way to try and brainwash the young.
What do we say to Allen?
Fuck you, thank you very much
http://www.gigwise.com/news/45342/lily-allens-antibnp-song-leaks-online-in-full
The trouble is there are too many people who think Griffin is the messianic saviour of British Nationalism, rather than the Trojan Horse sent to undermine, destabilise and wreck the BNP.
If he isn't 'dethroned' then the party will be finished as a credible force. A political exorcism is required to get rid of Griffin and his party wrecking cabal.
"If he isn't 'dethroned' then the party will be finished as a credible force. A political exorcism is required to get rid of Griffin and his party wrecking cabal.
13 August 2008 22:30"
After Sunday, Griffin won't care. He'll be set up with a pension for life and the BNP suckers will have to pay it. Remember, the BNP is an unincorporated business, and if there were no funds in the kitty to pay his annual pension, by law, he can demand it from the party officers personal bank accounts, and the BNP members.
Griffin, is a snake.
Griffin will NOT win a seat in the Euro Parliament. I have it on good authority from the deceptively "supine" but in reality cunning VOC team that wherever he stands a realistic nationalist alternative will also stand. A few hundred votes can make all the difference. He will NEVER get on to the gravy train of Europe, which is after all paid for by OUR taxes. Would any genuine nationalist taxpayer want to see this greedy selfish bastard collecting his fat salary along with the treasonous scum from Labour/Con/LibDem? If the answer is no, then watch this space and every single one has only himself/herself to blame if what is asked for in the coming weeks and months is not answered in a positive way.
Griffin has to be completely removed from the nationalist movement. He can spend the rest of his days earning an honest living punting on the Backs of his alma mater or retraining as a fork lift truck driver for Morrisons. Just get him and his influence away from the much needed movement of nationalism as a saviour for our race and nation.
RT REVEREND S.STEVENS [a real one]
What is this that i see, that the REV R WEST is due to address the flock at 10.30 on Sunday.. strange this ? is as i was asked to take the Sunday service and also to address the flock and take confessions at 12.00 hrs.
I hope Griffin has got some holy whine to calm things as there might be some dog collars flying if that phony vicar R.west eye balls me.
I will be very visible on the day DOG COLLAR AND BLACK HAT and will be having harsh word with the Chairman Griffin as to who is giving the sermon on the mount AND preaching to the flock [sheep]
AND IF THAT CLOWN REYNOLDS ATTEMPTS TO KEEP ME OUT OF THE RWB.
WELL ,HOW DARE HE LAY A HAND ON A MAN OF THE CLOTH, and if he blasphemes in my presence i will not be responsible my actions.
so you will not be able to say i was inconspicuous by my absence.
The RT REV S STEVENS [SOAPY]
Red on White said
Griffin has to be completely removed from the nationalist movement. He can spend the rest of his days earning an honest living punting on the Backs of his alma mater or retraining as a fork lift truck driver for Morrisons. Just get him and his influence away from the much needed movement of nationalism as a saviour for our race and nation.
14 August 2008 00:11
That is a good idea, Morrisons operate an 'Equal Oppotunity' scheme I believe but does that include shitbags?
Its ankle deep in mud at the RWB site.
Dave from Burnley said...
Its ankle deep in mud at the RWB site.
14 August 2008 01:20
This is bothering me. With more rain on the way and the forcast for Satuday being heavy rain, the entrance to the RWB may become impasable. If there is a backlog of traffic blocking the road on Sunday what then? will the police move people on or will security turn members away because they can't get in? Will the start of the meeting be delayed or will Giffin go ahead regardless of numbers in attendance. Members arriving for the EGM only must do so after 2.30, park up, negitiate a marsh an get seated before 3.30. Very worrying.
The sun shines a=on the righteous.
So it should be pissing down wherever Griffin is! ;-)
No dout in his memoirs he'll be stood amidst plentious rays of sunshine in the middle of a sodden field.
Still, he's used to sodden. Sorry, I mean sodding!
he's certainly taken the BNP mebers up the rear passage: politically and financially.
One wonders how much he's spent kitting out his barn at Y Gribbin and his Croat idyll.
A damn sight more than we criticise MPs over their "John Lewis Lists" i reckon.
he's just a Tel Aviv style conman.
Please see below for full information about this Saturday’s important protest against the BNP’s fascist rally in Derbyshire. LMHR urges all our supporters to attend if you possibly can.
LMHR will be providing the stage and sound system for the political speakers at the demonstration – which will also host music, with performances from top East Midlands-based artists, “guerrilla gig”-style, including Baby J, Mellow Baku, Reggiemental, and others.
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From: unite [mailto:unite@UCU.ORG.UK]
Protest Against fascist BNP's Red, White & Blue "festival" -
Saturday August 16th , 11am. Codnor. Derbyshire. East Midlands
Drop off point - car park on Alfreton Road, Codnor, Ripley, DE5 9QY as indicated on attached map. ( near the junction of A610 - Nottingham Road and A6007 Heanor Road, Codnor.)
Speakers include -
Judy Mallaber MP Amber Valley
Jerry Bartlett - Deputy General Secretary NASUWT
James Eaden, NEC member Midlands Region UCU
Kirit Mistry, DERBY Race Equality Council
Lee Baron - Regional Secretary Midlands CWU
Sheikh Ibrahim Mogra - Assistant Secretary General Muslim Council of Britain
Representative - UNISON Midlands Region
Dave Green - Midlands Region FBU
Baby J -Derby Love Music Hate Racism
Protest details for Saturday 16th August,
The transport drop off point will be in the car park on Alfreton Road, Codnor, Ripley, DE5 9QY as indicated on attached map. ( near the junction of A610 - Nottingham Road and A6007 Heanor Road, Codnor.)
Protesters will be assembling between 11am and 11.30 at this location point. At approx 11.30am- 11.45am Unite Against Fascism stewards will direct the assembled protesters on a short
Public Procession from Codnor along the A6007 to Codnor Denby Lane, where the BNP are holding their RWB “festival” where the protest will be held.
The protest will be then be followed by a rally of local and national speakers back at Codnor Market Place. The rally is scheduled to end around 2.00pm and then UAF stewards will ensure those present are dispersed safely onto transport from the pick up point from 2.00pm onwards.
Anti BNP Protest & Rally called by East Midlands Unite Against Fascism, Derby, Mansfield and Nottingham Trades Council, Derby Unite Against Fascism, Derby Love Music Hate Racism, and Unite Against Fascism nationally and Notts StBNP. Supported by Midlands TUC , Midland CWU, Midland GMB, Midland UNITE the union, NASUWT, East Midland UNISON and Derby REC. ( and in conjunction with local and regional trade union organisations and local UAF/ LMHR groups).
A protest will take place against the Red, White & Blue fascist rally organised by the BNP in Derbyshire on Saturday August 16th.
Despite significant local opposition - including the withdrawal of a premises (alcohol & music) licence by the local authority and police - the BNP are going ahead with their Nazi rally in the Derbyshire countryside. In previous years, BNP members were secretly filmed by BBC documentary makers singing Nazi marching songs at the event.
Unite Against Fascism are calling on every organisation and individual opposed the BNP's attempt to hold an event aimed at stirring up race hate, to join the anti fascist protest and rally near the BNP's RWB festival site in Codnor, Derbyshire from 11am on Sat 16th August .
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TRANSPORT DETAILS
East Midlands Transport Details
Derby: Assemble 10am , Council House , Corporation Rd , Derby , Contact Sue: 01332382321
Leicester: Assemble 9am , Secular Hall, Humberstone Gate, Leicester. Contact Mike: 07960229186
Nottingham: Assemble 9am , The Salutation, Maid Marion Way, Nottingham. Contact Richard: 07940952825
Chesterfield: two pick ups Assemble 9.30am , Town Hall, Rose Hill. Assemble 9.45am, Somerfield car park , Claycross.
Contact Jane 07813494682
West Midlands Transport Details
Birmingham. Transport leaves Carrs Lane, Birmingham City Centre, at 9.30 am. Contact 07804 396 176 or BirminghamUAF@hotmail.com to book your place
Coventry : will leave Fairfax Street Baths, Coventry at 9am will pick up
enroute in Leicester St, Bedworth and the Nuneaton Bus Station. To book seats ring/email Coventry TUC on 07952770412, coventrytuc@union.org.za
Black Country. For details contact Black Country UAF on 07941 834125 or blackcountryUAF@tiscali.co.uk
Stoke: Assemble 8.30 am outside Toys R Us, Ridgehouse Drive, Festival Park, Stoke-on-Trent, ST1 5RS. Contact Jenn 07780 556159 or email Jacqui on jacquie.leach@talktalk.net.
For details of transport details from other areas contact Unite Against Fascism on 020 7833 4916 or email unite@ucu.org.uk ( see www.uaf.org.uk)
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Message from Midlands TUC
Dear Colleagues
Along with Weyman Bennett of Unite Against Fascism (UAF) I have just met with senior police officers responsible for dealing with the protest scheduled for Saturday 16th August 2008.
After lengthy and sometimes difficult discussions we have managed to secure agreement with the Police for the following protest march and rally.
Meet at Codnor Market Place from 11am for a march that will set off at approx 11.30am.
The short march through Codnor will be followed by a rally of local and national speakers back at Codnor Market Place.
The rally is scheduled to end around 1.15pm. Coaches should aim to vacate the specially provided parking provision no later than 2pm.
This is the only protest supported by the Midlands TUC. There is nothing else that has been sanctioned by the Police or that I am in a position to recommend colleagues to attend.
Further details for this event will be circulated early next week by the organisers of the event UAF. We will do our best to make sure this information is circulated widely.
I'm sorry for the delay in getting this information to you. I hope that you will appreciate that there have been a number of difficulties which has led to the TUC having to get more closely involved.
I hope that we can get a good trade union turnout to what I now believe will be an effective and safe protest against the BNP.
Regards
Roger
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Roger McKenzie
TUC Midlands Regional Secretary
In response to claims by fascist organisation the British National Party that they are planning to hold a public rally in Stoke-on-Trent on Saturday September 20th, Stoke Love Music Hate Racism, Unite Against Fascism and North Staffordshire Campaign Against Racism and Fascism (NorScarf) have launched a statement callling for people and organisations in Stoke to unite against the BNP's attempts to divide the community, and calling on the authorities to ban any public BNP rally. The wording of the statement is at the end of this email, and a petition-style version you can print out is attached.
We would like as many organisations and individuals to sign in support of the statement as possible, to indicate the depth of opposition to the BNP in the city and across the region. Please let us know if your organisation wishes to be a co-sponsor of the statement. A list of signatories will be released to the media between now and September 20th.
We hope united campaigning will prevent the BNP rally from going ahead but either way there will be some sort of protest or vigil organised by supporting groups in Stoke on September 20th. In addition on the day, there will be Love Music Hate Racism events at Staffordshire University and a Love Music Hate Racism-backed music festival in Hanley Forest Park.
A planning meeting will be held in Stoke in the near future for all organisations and individuals wishing to get involved.
If you would like to get involved in any of LMHR's activities in Stoke please contact stoke@lovemusichateracism.com. Stoke LMHR also welcomes donations towards the cost of organising anti-racist and anti-fascist initiatives and materials in the city.
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SIGN THE STOKE UNITY STATEMENT
* We want peace and harmony in Stoke. We want a city for everyone where we can live together.
* We understand that the British National Party (BNP) are planning a "rally" in Stoke-on-Trent on September 20th, which party leader Nick Griffin will attend.
* We believe that the BNP’s intention, whatever they may say publicly, is to whip up racism and division in Stoke.
* We are saddened and horrified that such an organisation is targeting Stoke.
The BNP is a fascist organisation, as exposed in TV documentaries such as Panorama and Dispatches.
* BNP leader Nick Griffin was convicted in 1998 of incitement to racial hatred after denying that the Holocaust - the murder of 6 million Jews and millions of others - did not take place.
* We appeal to the police and authorities to prevent the BNP from dividing our city.
* As organisations and individuals we pledge to work tirelessly together to oppose groups who seek to divide our community.
Thanks for the post anon. Some very interesting pick up points.
Pity those supposed "Trade Unionists" don't look after their members pay and conditions. Sounds like a large day out for them sponsored by the State.
I wonder what Nu Labour will do when no one is in a job to be able to afford union dues ? In fact I bet union membership is falling in any case...
It's a pity Solidarity got hijacked by the Gri££in,Crook,State and Allied Workers union .....
I have said enough in the past but you no it all and have all been fleeced by the greatest con artist ever to infest the nationalists movement .
But how do we all bring him down that is the question ?
jeith axon
Red on White said >>Griffin will NOT win a seat in the Euro Parliament. I have it on good authority from the deceptively "supine" but in reality cunning VOC team that wherever he stands a realistic nationalist alternative will also stand.<<
Unfortunately, people vote for the BRAND, not the PERSON. With the Jewsmedia behind him, the Gri££in BNP is the name the voters will recognise and go for.
Word just in:
The Griffin family have total control of catering this year at the RWB. We trust our sources will be doing a head count on food purchases, and we will bring you the rough financial total quite literally "Carrier bagged off site never to be seen again", by his corrupt greedy family this weekend.
Burgers are £2 each
Let us assume Griffin got the old capitalist bug and popped into his local Asda. Knowing how his mind works he would go for the basic brand giving him a huge profit, thus:
Box of 8 saver burgers 58p per box
Pack of 12 saver burger buns £1.18
Giving a total cost of 29 pence per burger in a bun, and a huge profit in Griffins family carrier bag.
Griffin romances about farming and the country side, but don’t expect to see him there handling fresh organic British beef, and gently moulding it into patties.
Anyone here who remembers the beer scam he pulled on the NF, when Griffin and his family sanded the sell-by date off the cans he sold to young NF members, even though those cans of beer were donated free, should quite rightly be terrified of sampling any of his families offerings.
More as we get it.
The slimy snake has got an "eye" for a bargain.
Is the food going to be Kosher? He won't want to upset his Zionist buddies.
What happened to the guy who used to do the food? Has he been kicked out?
Hi NWN,
I commented that burgers at the RWB are being sold for £2 for 2oz but it has not been published on your site!
It is true as I have a contact who has been helping the set up of marquees and he told me 15 mins before posting.
Maybe they are M&S burgers !
What is this about the RT REV S STEVENS and the REV R WEST attending the RWB on the Sunday who are it looks like in competition with one an other for the same Griffin flock of [sheep].
Whats Griffin thinking of ? inviting two vicars at the same time to speak.
Perhaps griffo is going all religious and wants to be blessed showing he is a good MAN or is it a..god.. ]CRISTIAN ? in the eyes of the lord.
The man mystifies me at times ,i always thought he was a pagen ? well looks like i am wrong ,but having two vicars is perhaps going two far.
I hope he has got plenty of holy wine ? or is it going to be a vicars tea party dog collar's and all.
The reverend S Stevens is at least an ordained vicar not like R west who bought the title and dog collar.
It reminds me of that Scottish con man JOHN CRONIN who impersonated a vicar some time ago and at one timer he was a member of the BNP perhaps Griffo new him it's a bit strange that GRIFFIN keeps surrounding him self with so called men of the cloth what is Griffin trying to prove. perhaps he wants to be a saint.
keyser soza
The BNP is as bent as a nine bob note. No-one in their right mind would have anything to do with it. The whole thing is just the Gri££in family business.
Approved by the London Beth Din and run by the Grandmaster himself.
Machiavellian & Subversive burgers eh. Yum Yum. The stench of corruption moves to the barbecue area.
"Machiavellian & Subversive burgers eh. Yum Yum. The stench of corruption moves to the barbecue area.
15 August 2008 09:43"
I hope Griffin has the correct licences to cook and sell food, and isn't using someone elses which is usually the case.
"The BNP is as bent as a nine bob note. No-one in their right mind would have anything to do with it. The whole thing is just the Gri££in family business."
Yes, but if only we'd been told before joining, and if a new party forms, that is the attack we must go on. It would need pointing out that we are decent honest patriots, and the BNP are scum.
Griffin is making up for not getting any beer money, and if you trust BNP estimates of a 4000 turnout, and everyone buys one burger, he makes £8,000 just on that.
It's £25 for a single, and £40 for a family ticket. I look forward to Griffin stating it made a loss again...
Griffin makes the news
http://www.ripleyandheanornews.co.uk/video.aspx?VideoPath=RHN/nickgriffininterview512k_stream.wmv&VideoID=23210&ArticleID=4396905
Looks like the Final Conflict blog piece recently about the Kosher BBQ at the RWB was quite prophetic!!! ;-)
£2 for a burger cost price circa 20p!
It'd make the Rothschilds blush!
Whatever next? Out of date beer with the BBE date scratched off?
Oh... no... that was Griffin 20 odd years ago!
The former greasy spoon merchant and Griffinite Chris Vanns has done a runner since he got the boot from being Burnley BNP organiser.
Vanns was only good for selling cheap burgers foran extortionate price at the RWB.
I hear that Burnley BNP is now in good hands.
Word in from our counting sources
There are approximately 450 tents pitched at RWB. We'll be generous and declare it 50/50 family and singles, and allow 100 day visitors 50/50 again, giving a total of
Singles £6,875 ticket sales
Family £10,600 ticket sales
We know from our own personal experience that each individual will consume 2 burgers, 6 cups of tea, 2 breakfast sandwiches, and an evening sandwich, giving an average of £15 per person on food. Our head counters estimate no more than 1000 bodies on site, giving a total of
£15,000 to £20,000 on food
There are fairground rides for children, and our counters estimate £1000 will be spent on rides
There is an ice cream van, and they estimate £500 will be spent on ice creams
We have a final rough total, and remember this does not include donations into buckets, sales of publications, or Excalibur merchandise, of
£38,975
Turnout for RWB has fallen, but is comparable with the 2005 turnout where RWB declared £31,000 profit to the AC.
We personally estimate excalibur and publication sales to be around £5,000 and bucket donations to be £4,000 to £7,000
Now they know what it feels like.
BNP protest event is postponed
A black music event organised in protest against the British National Party's (BNP) annual festival in Derbyshire has been postponed.
The Red, Black and Green event was scheduled in Derby on the same day as the Red, White and Blue festival.
Organisers claimed police had warned there could be trouble on Saturday, prompting them to cancel.
But Derbyshire Police said they had not objected to the event or applied any pressure for it to be cancelled.
The music festival was organised by Baby J Enterprises and Hella Music to support the Love Music Hate Racism campaign in protest against the BNP's Red White and Blue event in Denby.
Risk assessment
The organisers said the police had contacted the venue, West End Community Centre in Derby, about concerns over firearms.
A police spokesperson said they had asked for a risk assessment, which they would do for any event.
A spokesperson from Baby J Enterprises said: "Although the police say they cannot actually cancel an event they put enough pressure on for the venue to feel unhappy to let the event go ahead.
"We have already opened talks with venues and artists to go ahead with an even bigger and better rearranged event in the near future."
He added the Unite Against Fascism protest against the BNP event would go ahead on Saturday with appearances from some of the local musicians due to perform at the Red, Black and Green festival.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/7563889.stm
"There are approximately 450 tents pitched at RWB."
So much for Darby bragging about 4000
The Weakest Link has just started at RWB, and I hope they opt for Griffin.
Fair ground rides are £2.50 each, and £1 for children.
There is also a variety of European foods on sale, BNP members need to get used to those for when Griffin gets into Europe and decides its a lovely idea afterall!
The police have been on site after the Leicester branch gave glasses of beer free with cheese purchases.
Arrests at BNP festival
Around 40 anti-fascist protesters have clashed with riot police outside the British National Party's annual festival.
http://www.wmaker.net/editoweb/UK-Today-Editoweb-16-august-2008_a10394.html
This story is interesting. It presents itself as anti BNP, but between the lines, I think its pro, and it certainly seems to play up that the BNP has 4000 in attendance at RWB, when we know there is only 1000 adults.
"THE MEDIA gets terribly sniffy about the reporting of the British National Party. We worry we're giving a bunch of neo-Nazis the oxygen of publicity if we examine their activities and policies, and so content ourselves that the party is just a tiny clique of fringe loonies that really aren't worth bothering about.
How absolutely wrong we are. Yesterday some 4000 BNP members attended the party's annual rally, the Red, White and Blue Festival in the village of Codnor in Derbyshire. Sharing centre stage with party leader Nick Griffin, a man I've got to know quite well over the years, was Petra Edelmannova, leader of the Nationalist Party in the Czech Republic, which espouses anti-immigration, anti-Romany and anti-Semitic policies.
I've spent years investigating the activities of the BNP. I've watched their members "seig heil", crack jokes about Auschwitz and advocate the forced repatriation of non-whites from the UK."
http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2427152.0.0.php
BNP protests lead to 33 arrests
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/7565354.stm
Protesters march against BNP festival in Denby
http://www.belpernews.co.uk/news/Protesters-come-eye-to-eye.4398558.jp
The head of an ultra-right wing party which advocates a "final solution" for Roma in the Czech Republic is due to speak at the annual festival held by the British National party today. Petra Edelmannova, chair of the Czech National party, is booked to give a 25-minute speech at the BNP's Red White and Blue festival in the village of Denby in Derbyshire.
The event faces strong opposition from local residents and anti-racism campaigners who are mounting a demonstration. The protest has been organised by a number of groups including Unite Against Facism (UAF), Love Music Hate Racism and Derby Racial Equality Council. The TUC and unions CWU and Unite are giving their support. UAF said it was expecting more than 500 people and coaches from around the country.
Edelmannova's party recently announced it was working on a 150-page "study" called The Final Solution to the Gypsy Issue in the Czech Lands, which it said it would present as part of a 2010 general election campaign.
Although the title evokes the Nazi plan to eradicate Jews in wartime Germany, the party told Lidove Noviny, a national Czech newspaper, its aim is only to offer Roma voluntary relocation to land bought in India. The NS is a marginal party in the Czech Republic, gaining only 0.17% of votes in the 2006 parliamentary elections. Judy Mallaber, MP for Amber Valley, said she had deep concerns. "[The BNP's] attempts to present a respectable image are still masking some deeply disturbing underlying views."
Simon Darby, deputy leader of the BNP, said: "There is a Gypsy problem there. What's wrong with people who talk frankly about their problems?"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/aug/16/thefarright.roma
Bad publicity for the anti's. The people of Derby are not happy with them, and about time.
"Anti-facist protesters clash with riot police outside BNP festival
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 10:15 PM on 16th August 2008
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About 40 anti-fascist protesters clashed with riot police outside the BNP’s annual festival.
Officers arrested six demonstrators as they tried to barricade a road and prevent British National Party members from attending the annual Red, White and Blue Festival in Denby, Derbyshire.
Police were pelted with stones by a breakaway group of protesters during the clashes. Officers with batons, supported by dogs and a helicopter, quelled the disturbance."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1045991/Anti-facist-protesters-clash-riot-police-outside-BNP-festival.html
Yep, the BNP look like saints in the press compared to that rowdy lot. Great press coverage.
oh dear...are you numpties still rattling on ...sigh. fulfill your promises and people will listen. I know this comment wont get past the 'moderator' but fer fucks sake come back will ya?
"oh dear...are you numpties still rattling on ...sigh. fulfill your promises and people will listen. I know this comment wont get past the 'moderator' but fer fucks sake come back will ya?
17 August 2008 00:31"
We will, as soon as Griffin goes.
Us numpties all want to belong to a decent honest nationalist party. Unfortunately, Griffin, with help from the political system which wants an infective but publicised safety valve, has made it near impossible.
Can the name caller tell us exactly how Griffin's BNP is going to save the country. What is the plan? Fairs in a field won't change anything however enjoyable -and profitable to some.
Maybe time to complain about John Taylor, the labour councillor for Tyneside who posts on LUAF and thinks nobody knows about it.
Surely his time "on the clock" should be spent working for the constituents not posting on sites that participate in attacking police?
See my new article for details.
More publicity thanks to, Lilly Allen.
"IT PAINS us to report it, but a war of lyrics has broken out between the British National Party, led by Powys pig farmer Nick Griffin, and Lily Allen, the pop singer our colleagues on Sunday Roast like to refer to as “daughter of Llanelli-born hellraiser Keith”.
Lily has put her new song up on the web. Titled Guess Who Batman, it takes a swipe at the BNP with lyrics such as: “You’re just some racist who can’t tie my laces, your point of view is medieval.”
Not to be outdone, the youth wing of the BNP have released their own little ditty, under the title Pond Life.
“You don’t know what you’re talking about,” goes the riposte, recorded by Joey and Alan Smith. “Let’s get the truth out.
“You like to think yourself as a flower. You’ve no political power.”
Oh, guys. Why can’t we all just play nice?"
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/08/17/lily-s-right-on-song-to-upset-bnp-91466-21546583/
"Maybe time to complain about John Taylor, the labour councillor for Tyneside who posts on LUAF and thinks nobody knows about it.
Surely his time "on the clock" should be spent working for the constituents not posting on sites that participate in attacking police?
See my new article for details.
17 August 2008 10:54"
Thumbs up, great site, and nice to see the anti's plagued ego problems.
I know how to save money for the BNP!
The Truth Truck could have special flaps, that come down to reveal a well equipped catering "Burger Van"
Funds thus raised from hungry activists could be ... well ..er .. used by Mr Griffin for ....er ... whatever .. he does with all the other money.
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