Sunday, December 28, 2008

Bishops deliver damning verdict on Britain under Labour rule

Five of the Church’s most senior figures said the Government now presided over a country suffering from family breakdown, an unhealthy reliance on debt and a growing divide between rich and poor.

The Bishop of Manchester accused Labour of being “beguiled by money” and “morally corrupt”.
The Bishop of Hulme said they were “morally suspect” and the Bishop of Durham said they had reneged on their promises.

They were joined by the bishops of Winchester and Carlisle who claimed ministers had squandered their opportunity to transform society and run out of steam.

The bishops said Labour sacrificed principled politics and long-term solutions for policies designed to win votes. One described the Government as “tired” and another said its policies were “scandalous”.

Meanwhile, in an article for The Sunday Telegraph, David Cameron accused Gordon Brown of leading Britain to the “brink of bankruptcy”.

The Conservative leader said the “debt crisis”, which he claimed was the Government’s responsibility alone, would serve as the Prime Minister’s “political epitaph”.

Although they were speaking independently in a series of interviews with The Sunday Telegraph, the bishops’ common criticisms reflect the deepening rift between the Government and the Church on social and moral issues. Relations have become increasingly fractious following condemnation of Mr Brown’s spending plans by Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the publication of a report that accused the Government of marginalising the Church.

In February, the General Synod, the Church’s parliament, will hold a debate on the implications of the financial crisis that is expected to lead to heavy criticism of the Government. The Rt Rev Tom Wright, the Bishop of Durham, said ministers had not done enough to help the poor.

“Labour made a lot of promises, but a lot of them have vanished into thin air,” he said. “We have not seen a raising of aspirations in the last 13 years, but instead there is a sense of hopelessness.
“While the rich have got richer, the poor have got poorer. When a big bank or car company goes bankrupt, it gets bailed out, but no one seems to be bailing out the ordinary people who are losing their jobs and seeing their savings diminished.”

The Rt Rev Nigel McCulloch, the Bishop of Manchester, condemned Labour for encouraging people to get further into debt. “The Government has acted scandalously. This is not just an economic issue, but a moral one. It’s about what we value,” he said.

“The Government believes that money can answer all of the problems and has encouraged greed and a love of money that the Bible says is the root of all evil. It is morally corrupt because it encourages people to get into a lifestyle of believing they can always get what they want.”

Bishop McCulloch said New Labour was guilty of pursuing the policies championed by Margaret Thatcher, which the Church condemned in its landmark 1985 report, Faith in the City. It blamed Thatcherite policies for the growth of spiritual and economic poverty in Britain’s inner cities.
“Both administrations have been beguiled by money,” said Bishop McCulloch.

“It is ironic that under a Labour government we have the poor feeling they have been betrayed and the gap is getting ever greater. Any government of integrity would have exercised restraint, but this has been sadly lacking.”

The Rt Rev Stephen Lowe, the Church’s Bishop for Urban Life and Faith and also the Bishop of Hulme, said: “The Government isn’t telling people who are already deep in debt to stop overextending themselves, but instead is urging us to spend more.

“That is morally suspect and morally feeble. It is unfair and irresponsible of the Government to put pressure on the public to spend in order to revive the economy.”

Bishop Lowe suggested that it was a cynical ploy to improve the economy in time for the next general election.

“They are trying to take the credit for this, but are playing with people’s livelihoods in the process.” The bishop commissioned a Church report, Moral, But No Compass, published earlier this year, which said Labour had failed society and marginalised the Church.

It revealed the level of unease felt among senior clerical figures over the direction being taken by the Government.

The Rt Rev Graham Dow, the Bishop of Carlisle, and the Rt Rev Michael Scott-Joynt, the Bishop of Winchester, said Labour deserved credit for some past achievements but it was struggling to balance its conscience with the pressure to win the next election.

“I agree with the Conservatives that the breakdown of the family is a crucial element in the difficulties of our present society,” said Bishop Dow.

“The Government hasn’t given sufficient support to that because it is scared of losing votes.” He argued that Labour’s failure to back marriage and its “insistence on supporting every choice of lifestyle” had had a negative effect on society. “I think Labour has got tired,” he said. Bishop Scott-Joynt said:

“The Government hasn’t done anything like enough to help those less well off, particularly in terms of tax redistribution. There also has been the disaster of the 10p tax.

“It is imperative that this Government help the poorer people and hold the hard-hit communities in its sights, but it seems to have its eye on re-election instead.”

A senior ministerial source said: “The Government has a proud record on promoting fairness and opportunity for all, combating poverty and in tackling Third World debt and promoting international development.

“We also believe it is morally right to provide real help and resources to people facing unemployment or worried about losing their homes.”

*Gordon Brown will use his New Year message to pledge to work with Barack Obama, the US President-Elect, to end the economic crisis and get to grips with climate change. The Prime Minister will say that the main challenge of 2009 will be to build a “better tomorrow, today”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/3981635/Bishops-deliver-damning-verdict-on-Britain-under-Labour-rule.html

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

"BISHOPS" THESE MEN ARE NO FRIEND'S OF NATIONALISTS THEY ARE PROVEN ENEMIES'S OF OUR PEOPLE AND MUST BE TREATED AS SUCH.

Anonymous said...

Religion's 'explanatory' appeal: The importance of religion for many people is that it explains how the world came into existence ("Because God created it") and the purpose of their life ("To worship God and do his bidding"). However, these explanations make no sense upon close examination. In particular, 'explaining' the existence of the world as an act of God requires the believer to explain how God was created -- surely he did not create himself -- and this means that the 'explanation' leaves more unexplained about the world than before the 'explanation' was developed. Likewise, 'explaining' one's purpose in life by saying it is to 'serve God' implies that God's purposes are known, whereas in reality we know nothing about "God's purposes" except what is told to us by the babbling of religious fruitcakes. (XofPi=)

Anonymous said...

Religion's immoral leaders: Religion has always claimed to offer a code of "absolute morality", yet the behavior of its holiest men have often been far less than moral by any standard, religious or otherwise. For example, numerous Popes have been guilty of all sorts of crimes -- bribery, theft, fornication, murder, torture, warmaking -- you name it. Again, the Inquisition was responsible for treating many people with the most extreme barbarity -- so much so that a strong stomach is required simply to read about it. It is true, of course, that Christianity has cleaned up its act in recent years, but this has much less to do with the character of its leaders than its failing power in a world dominated by science. Accordingly, since Christians are no longer able to express their love of God thru such media as boring tongues with hot pokers, beating people till bloody at the whipping post, dipping and re-dipping them in boiling oil or ripping off their genitals, these gentle and loving people now have to content themselves with beating the bare buttocks of their children, and even this divertissement has been under attack in recent years.(XofPi=)

Anonymous said...

An Fundamentalist interpretation of political Zionism.

On April 9th 1948, Menahem Beghin and his Irgun troops massacred the 254 inhabitants of the village of Deir Yassin, men, women and children.

We are studying this passage of fossilization of the myth into history and the claims of that "historical touch-up job" to justify a policy, in just one specific case : that of the instrumentalization of the Biblical tales. They have never ceased to play a determinant role in the fate of the West, insofar as they covered its most bloody deeds, from the persecution of the Jews by the Romans, then by the Christians, until the Crusades, the lnquisition, the Holy Alliance, the colonial dominations exerted by the "chosen people",until the exactions of the state of Israel, not only through its policy of expansion in the Middle East, but also through the pressures of its lobbies, the most powerful of which is the American one, that plays a major role in the American policy of world domination and military aggression. This is the reason for our choice : the exploitation of a mythical past is influencing the future towards what might prove to be world suicide. (XofPi=)

Anonymous said...

To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

Libbre David 37
(Reads like the minutes of a Mafia meeting!!!)

Anonymous said...

The church is without power, and have left it way to late to have an opinion on our society. They call the government immoral, but sanction same sex marriage and adoption. I'd say the church was a heap of stinking immoral shit that has never had the welfare of any people on its list. Should we ever forget the farmers and their families who starved while being forced to give their crops to the church, or the women they burnt at the stake for daring to worship nature over a man made god?

Anonymous said...

When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.

Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D

Anonymous said...

On the house of the Goy [Goy means unclean, and is the disparaging term for a non-Jew] one looks as on the fold of cattle.

Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII
(In there own words)

Anonymous said...

When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.

Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156
(That explains a lot)

Anonymous said...

Happy will be the lost of Israel, whom the Holy One, blessed be He, has chosen from amongst the Goyim, of whom the Scriptures say: "Their work is but vanity, it is an illusion at which we must laugh; they will all perish when God visits them in His wrath." At the moment when the Holy One, blessed be He, will exterminate all the Goyim of the world, Israel alone will subsist, even as it is written: "The Lord alone will appear great on that day!...

Zohar, Vayshlah 177b
(There Law)

Anonymous said...

Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.

Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L
(This is there Law not a religion, its away of thinking)

Anonymous said...

Wake up or die, White people!
“To see what is in front of one’s nose requires constant struggle.”
-– George Orwell, 1946

NOTE! All the Jewish Supremacists and Zionists spoken about here are mostly from the Khazar tribe originating from southern Russia (also called the Ashkenazi), who converted in the 8th-9th century, AD. Not the true Israelites of the Bible nor the Torah Jews (Neturei Karta). These KHAZAR interlopers donned the cloak of Judaism, yet retained ancient criminal and parasitic functions among host nations. Over the centuries, their behavior has caused the Gentile populations to rise up and throw them bodily out or worse. This has happened about 79 times. Now, Zionistic elements of them have control of important and powerful parts of America and other White, European nations, as well as having their own stolen country in the Mideast that we’re now completely beholden to — no matter what they do to us or what they make us do to the world for them. According to their Talmud, we are nothing but “Goyim” or cattle to them.

Simon Smith said...

"Established" religion has always been an adjunct to those with political power. William I brother was archbishop of Canterbury or something, wasn't he ?

When the British had an Empire, the church backed its expansionist policies with "bibles for land". When it it was necessary to "accommodate" mass immigration, the church became cultural Marxist liberals. Church "leaders" are middle class Harry Enfield type twits whose low intellects marked them out early in life for useful idiot style jobs.

True religion/spirituality is individual and pagan. Collectivist "big religion" accommodates the lowest denominator.

I know this is a sensitive subject for many, but the truth needs to be stated from time to time. Christianity was originally a composite of Mediterranean belief systems. These belief systems were organised by Constantine into a "unifying" religious system that gave political control to the late Roman Empire.

I do not reject the Philosophical saying of Christ or indeed the body of sentiment surrounding Christianity, but Christianity is based on Astrotheological grounds. You can read the New Testament and realise that Jesus ,is the Sun.

The Winter solstice on December 21st. The son/sun is buried for three days/low on the horizon and is reborn = new year starting on December 25 th........ Wise men in the East are the stars on the belt of orion that "follow" the star Sirius, pointing to it as it rises on December 25th.

I suspect this esoteric knowledge is known in Masonic circles. The real "Masons" constructed theirs churches with the sun in mind. Big subject. For those who wish to find out, have a look at "The Christ Conspiracy" and a couple of videos on this subject.

Let him with ears hear :-)

Anonymous said...

If you can’t see or understand where all of this is really going — what the White race is allowing to happen to themselves – then you’re a part of the problem. We may very well, one day soon, find ourselves and our children as minorities in some nightmarish, Third World cesspool, ruled over by a Police State and what was once will be a long, distant memory…

– INCOG MAN, 2007

Anonymous said...

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/facts2.htm#10 (Good Information)

Anonymous said...

The patience of all decent men must surely be exhausted.

Today’s [27 December] slaughter of innocents in Gaza, with at least 300. reported killed in raids on “Hamas terror operatives” (as the Israeli military put it), amounted to “a mass execution”, said Hamas.

Can there now be any doubt who the real terrorists are?

The killing spree couldn’t have happened without the tacit approval of America, Britain and the European Union. The political pea-brains that direct the pro-Israel Western alliance were partying, gorging themselves on Christmas fare or binge-shopping while this massacre of hungry women and children and their despairing menfolk in Gaza was being planned and executed.

According to the US's own definition of terrorism Israel is squarely in the frame. Under Section 3 of Executive Order 13224 "Blocking Property and prohibiting Transactions with Persons who commit, threaten to commit, or support Terrorism", the term “terrorism” means an activity that:

(i) involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life, property, or infrastructure; and
(ii) appears to be intended

* to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
* to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
* to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, kidnapping, or hostage-taking.

The order and its definition of terrorism, signed 23 September 2001 by George W. Bush, is used to outlaw and crush any organization, individual or country the US doesn’t like. The Israeli regime’s "amoral thugs", as a British MP branded them, have plainly been terrorizing the Palestinians for the last 60 years.

Anti-gag said...

To start with I'd like to say I'm CofE and went to a CofE school. Religion was mentioned at morning assembly and that was it, two hymn and a 45 sec reading from the Bible and that was it.

The Bible must be the most ridiculous work of fiction ever written, the Koran excepted. The difference between the two books is that most Christians accept that the Bible was written thousands of years ago by ordinary mortal men, while muslims think that the Koran is Gods word to the letter.

Unfortunately many people swallow the nonsense of multiracial as easily as they do religious nonsense. The good news is both can be shot down with logic and reason.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

http://www.rahowa.com/creativity1.html ( HIGHLY RECOMMENDED)

Anonymous said...

"I do not reject the Philosophical saying of Christ or indeed the body of sentiment surrounding Christianity"

I do! Humanity has been imprisoned by lies, and for anyone in western Europe to believe in this semitic bilge is pure madness. Christianity weakens and imprisons man. Nature sets him free.

Anonymous said...

"We may very well, one day soon, find ourselves and our children as minorities in some nightmarish, Third World cesspool, ruled over by a Police State and what was once will be a long, distant memory…"


Or, we may finally gather some balls and smash the systems that created it all.

Anonymous said...

Simon Smith there's no fooling you full marks all round.

Anonymous said...

Time people realised that Christianity was twisted from the truth to make man afraid. Spend just 3 minutes of your life discovering the truth and visit this link.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-kvw1fYXs&feature=related

Anonymous said...

The Jews replaced the Sun with a face called Christ to make you forget what was important. The Jews taught you to turn the other cheek so you could be stabbed by foreign neighbours. The true religion is BLOOD AND SOIL. Take care of the planet as nature intended and the planet will take care of you.

Anonymous said...

Lorna Fitzsimons has joined the Britain Israel Communications & Research Centre (BICOM) as its new CEO.
Lorna Fitzsimons ex labour MP said:

"It is both an honour and a challenge to be appointed as BICOM's new CEO. I first became a friend of Israel 17 years ago as a student leader and have been a consistent friend ever since. I see my new role as an extension of my work, not just as a student leader but also as a parliamentarian.(Remember this twisted Rat)

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many people around the world would have gone to war for a flaming ball in the sky?

The bible is evil

KT said...

Has naybody else on here bought drugs from Eddie Stampton lately?

He was a bit quite up until the week before Christmas, what with hi doing a bit of bird for drug dealing and all that.

Anonymous said...

Has naybody else on here bought drugs from Eddie Stampton lately?

He was a bit quite up until the week before Christmas, what with hi doing a bit of bird for drug dealing and all that.

29 December 2008 00:33



No Cotterill the SB arsewipe put those lies about

Anonymous said...

Cossacks in Cassocks.

Protest about the enforced starvation and murder of German soldiers AFTER WW2