We are hearing that the firebomb attack occured in the London area, and another attack was perpetrated in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire.
More news as we get it.............................
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/British-National-Party-Members-Home-Firebombed---Police-Investigating/Article/200811315157335?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Header_0&lid=ARTICLE_15157335_British_National_Party_Members_Home_Firebombed_-_Police_Investigating
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I can confirm that violent threats directed toward BNP members were deleted from this blog. Comments declaring "WE WILL START OUR CAMPAIGN ON THURSDAY" came in on IP's from Leeds and Manchester University.
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And know this, the Police will NOT protect BNP/nationalists civil rights. They have shown this by their actions, and their 'political' bias.
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Car fire near BNP man's home
Police are investigating a suspicious car fire close to the house of a British National Party member.
West Yorkshire Police said firefighters and police officers were called to the blaze in Liversedge, near Huddersfield, late on Thursday night.
It is understood the car did not belong to anyone connected to the BNP but a member of the party does live in the street, Windy Bank
http://www.teletext.co.uk/news/national/df38e598389e5e0d82b4a77e3a5b7d5d/Car+fire+near+BNP+man's+home.aspx
So that report was nothing but sensationalism.
Interesting thought though ... given that the Establishment and its Red friends has had access to the BNP membership list since day one, how come there hasn't been a 'campaign' before?
So that report was nothing but sensationalism.
Interesting thought though ... given that the Establishment and its Red friends has had access to the BNP membership list since day one, how come there hasn't been a 'campaign' before?
21 November 2008 10:54
Here's something else for you to think about, and full proof as to why this was done by Griffin for maximum publicity.
Look down the list. Do you see anyone listed who is a plumber, electrician, works in Mrs Miggins pie shop etc? No, you don't, you only see high fliers, sports people, coppers and teachers, nurses. Those are the occupations used to draw maximum publicity to this list.
Griffin and Darby have squealed for years that they have these people, and now they've managed to prove it while also making the membership appear larger than it actually is.
GRIFFIN DID IT
Indymedia in a couple of reports claims
1) A landscape gardener has been sacked after reds contacted his firm
2) His wifes place of work has been daubed by them
The firebombing, if true, and these two claims shows the left for what they are, cowards.
There are plumbers and electricians on the list. HGV and Driving instructors, TV repair people, car mechanics, sound engineers.
Griffin may have released the list though, I agree with you on that. Or Darby as he seems to delight in 'outing' celebraties like the winner of the uks next model contest and mike reids daughter. Even thought the former was not a bnp member and the latter decided not to stand for the bnp after darby revealed to the world who she was.
That should have showed them people dont like to be outed, they will do it themselves when good and ready and dont take too kindly when darby jumps the gun.
he is a libility in my opinion even his pocmments about whoever did release the list will be forever ffightened (a media own goal if ever there was one and hes the press spokesman).
Of course whovere did issue the list has yet to be found, could be Griffin&Draby, could be disgruntled ex member, could be state infiltrator.
So at present they are sleeping soundly whilst the average bnp member probably isnt. So darbys comments are, at this stage, just empty words and probably will be even when the perpetrator is found. Whats darby going to do, go round there and have it out with them? He is a mouse not a man.
Gi££in must take full responsibility for this leak, any political leader with any scruples would resign in utter shame for this security breach, but not Gri££in, he's in it for the money, hopefully now very few people will renew their membership subs for 2009 and starve this disreputable vile, bastard out? For the last 30 years Gri££in has never taken responsibility for his idiotic actions and has always blamed somebody else, hopefully this major incident will be his nemisis?
So the reds have attacked the WRONG person. I think we can rely these doped up fools to make all this backfire on themselves.
Have to laugh at the Student Gwant types making threats from Universities aswell.
Griffins happy, but then he would be, wouldn't he :)
"The publicity about the high quality of our membership has massively improved our image. As a direct result we had more than 100,000 visitors to our website in one 24-hour peak period, and estimate many times more than that amount never managed to get through due to the demand on our servers. Those that did succeed in getting through read nearly two thirds of a million pages. This was double the previous record, which was set when we made our huge London Assembly breakthrough earlier this year."
http://bnp.org.uk/2008/11/stop-press-stop-press-stop-press/
If the police are looking in, when are you going to arrest Griffin?
There are plumbers and electricians on the list. HGV and Driving instructors, TV repair people, car mechanics, sound engineers.
Yes, a tiny handful, but the fact any careers should be listed at all is very suspicious. You see, the original BNP membership lists doesn't contain any information on careers. If anyone has a specific skill, it goes on a seperate BNP skills list. But, as we have seen, someone has combined the two. Why?
On the 21st December 2006, Guardian journalist, Ian Cobain, wrote-
"While some of the members of my new flock are from the BNP's traditional constituency - the white working class - there are also some scattered around some of the wealthiest areas of the capital, living in Chelsea townhouses, Belgravia mansions and apartments in Knightsbridge. They include dozens of company directors, computing entrepreneurs, bankers and estate agents, and a handful of teachers. One member is a former Miss England, another is the American chief executive of a City investment corporation, while one is a servant of the Queen, living at Buckingham Palace."
The star from his collection, Simone Clarke generated enough publicity, and when connected to Barnbrook, secured the BNP's first GLA seat.
Nick Griffin took no legal action against the paper nor the man. Why not?
Perhaps no action was taken because the whole thing was planned?
Why didn't Cobain out all the people he mentions in 2006?
NWN March 2008
http://northwestnationalists.blogspot.com/2008/03/nick-griffin-charged-with-destroying.html
Cobain worked for The Sunday Telegraph and the Times. As did Barbara Amiel. Griffin has bragged that Amiel secured Barking and Daggenham.
If anyone is actually harmed by non-coincidental actions against people on the list, the coward who primed the attack dogs must take responsibility for the actions, yes, that's Cyclops himself. And that toerag Darby.
Of course, Griffin is protected from his friends in the British establishment. Forget Eliot Ness. Cyclops is the original untouchable, and literally could get away with murder.
Anyone estimate when Gri££in was nobbled, or did he enter politics as an especially groomed nationalist leader?
If AFA are Gri$$ins attack dogs, and get arrested surely the dog's secret owner Gri$$in himself should surely get arrested and suffer the same punishment? We know it wouldnt happen as the One Eye Monster has good lawyers and friends at the DPP and with certain chief constables.
Gri££in wants to be a martyr as he knows that it will make him a "champagne nationalist". Learjets, private pools, and dinner parties await Gri££in's contribution to Europe.
makes me wanna puke...
If AFA are Gri$$ins attack dogs, and get arrested surely the dog's secret owner Gri$$in himself should surely get arrested and suffer the same punishment? We know it wouldnt happen as the One Eye Monster has good lawyers and friends at the DPP and with certain chief constables.
Gri££in wants to be a martyr as he knows that it will make him a "champagne nationalist". Learjets, private pools, and dinner parties await Gri££in's contribution to Europe.
makes me wanna puke...
He's selling us down the river, folks, and still most members don't know what's going on with NG.
Everytime there's a leadership challenge, non of the tabloid or broadsheet feature it. It's as if they want Mr Welshpool to retain charge of the party as he leads it and the bnp lemmings into Brussels oblivion.
Talk about doom!!!
The attacks on party members will be faked when necessary by the new world order to keep friend griffin in charge of the party.
The Sympathy Vote is nark Gri££in's trump card as he puts profit ahead of natioanlism to line his pockets at the expense of his members.
Watch out for dramatic happenings in the Northwest to influence voters that he is a victim and 100% genuine when he is nothing but a liar and a cheat. Gri££in will stop at nothing in his pusch for power, and yet, no-one will dare now stand against him.
I wouldn't believe Indymedia as most boasts on there are scruffy student bravado bullshit with no substance. It's like when suspected IRA bombs went off dozens of seperate groups claimed responsibility just to try to get noticed.
Besides media misreporting, I just wander if the secret services would stoop so far as secretly conducting the attacks and threats against lesser significant bnp members to aid the sympathy vote and keep their man in power of the BNP?
Nothing would surprise me.
The "secret services", whatever shorthand we use for them :special branch/MI5/MI6 are interested in preserving the interests of the money power and consequently the Lab/Con Punch and Judy show - The news management of events in the BNP only make sense in relation to how they are perceived in relation to UKIP and the Tories in particular.
The security of the British people is not their concern, although they probably have to brainwash their lower order operatives that "financial stability" and the interests of the British people are one.
You idiots should have thought about it when you launched redwatch
Attacks on party members faked? Yes, nothing new there. But they also have more than enough thicko Lefties that they could push over the edge too.
The attacks on party members will be faked when necessary by the new world order to keep friend griffin in charge of the party.
21 November 2008 15:27
Don't be silly, the establishment wants to pull all sides down. Its a pity you are to stupid to see it. Left right or middle, we will all be hearded like cattle in the end.
Searchlight & AFA started the political gangsterism.
We have the proof !
Searchlight in the 1970's, and AFA in the early 1990's.
I just had the misfortune to watch News24 in the hope to see the weather and there was this shrewd newspaper editor from one of the broadsheets and he was praising Nick Griffin's performance on the radio and the telly the other day, calling him inteligent, interesting and astute.
That a mainstream voicepeace of the media is praising the leader of a party the establishment normally despises, is a cause for concern for all nationalists.
Forget AFA. Forget Searchlight. We are being shafted by The Enemy From Within.
Thanks Cyclops for leaking the names and addresses of your beloved members, and placing them at risk. You are obviously prepared to do anything for money, in the form of Brussels, leaving Paedo Boy in-charge, and selling out any nationalist ideas you once claimed to subscribe to.
Cyclops, are you lidstening? You are an absolute discrace and if you refuse to resign, before next elections, there will be a finakly be genuine coup in the party heirarchy which will remove you from office.
How many other inside jobs will the putrid beast Gri££in spring upon his loyal membership between now and payday (the date of the Euro Elections)?
Members of the AC need to call for an EGM and pass a vote of no confidence, and they should do it now before Griffin sacks them.
May be Griffin did a deal with Special branch. MEP in exchange for making the membership public.
Tonight I took my usual weekend stroll down into Lancaster, in order to visit my usual three public houses. one pint of bitter in each. Nothing wrong with that you may think, and of course you'd be right. After consuming my second pint I looked into my normal last watering hole and (without having to ask) was served with my usual pint of bitter.
After about 20 mins of sitting quietly at the end of the bar, the landlady came up to me and made some comment about having a politician in tonight. I was suppressed as I've never spoken to her before except to order a drink. Next thing she says I'm barred, then makes a point of pointing me out to all the bar staff as such.
Now given I've been drinking in that pub (twice a week one pint each visit) for about five years now without any problems at all, is this just a coincidence or do I have the honour of being the first direct victim of the list?
Believe me I'm not saying being barred from a single pub, matches the Liverpool police officer who may lose his job, but small as this may be is it the first direct (successful*) intimidation?
If so I really can hold my head up high!
From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)
*By successful I mean it's effective immediately, no appeal, and I feel right proud!
PS.
Please do not think I'm in any way comparing losing your livelihood with being barred from an over priced and run down pub.
Chris and the name of the pub is .........?
Just so, we can all put them on a list we won't patronise.
Yerr! sure given the number of ANaL in Lancaster, I'm going to name the dump and get them more custom aren't I.
But I'll give you a clue, its one of the most expensive pubs in the city, and a tall dark haired landlady with a London accent.
From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)
@Chris Hill
I was trying to help and offer some support.
This pub is one that needs to be made an example of.
These lefty scumbags who bully and use their positions to have a cheap thrill love money.That is how to hit them, by the jewish boycott.
I am only a p/t. moderator on here, but if you can't be arsed neither can I.
Dear Anonymous (2:07 am)
What is, or was, a Jewish boycott?
From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)
Griffin still accusing Kenny Smith and Sadie Graham for the leak- Blake and Dawson not suspected by old Cyclops after all.
From: Nick Griffin [mailto:chairman@bnp.org.uk]
Sent: 22 November 2008 09:04
To: 'Ian Dawson'
Cc: 'Martin Wingfield'; 'deputy-chairman@bnp.org.uk'; 'Lee Barnes'
Subject: RE: A message from Ian Dawson
Dear Mr Dawson
Since the list in question dates from after your resignation, it is very clear that you could not possibly have been responsible for the initial leak, and we have not a shred of evidence to suggest any involvement in any subsequent forwarding of it. The only people to whom our membership secretary ever passed the leaked list (which dates from between 30th November and 2nd December 2007) were Sadie Graham and Kenny Smith.
Please feel free to pass this email on to anyone who in any way suggests that you might be to blame for or involved with the leak or any of its consequences, and feel free to contact me should anyone refuse to believe you and need putting straight by me.
Yours sincerely
Nick Griffin
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From: Ian Dawson [mailto:ian***@********.co.uk]
Sent: 21 November 2008 20:32
To: chairman@bnp.org.uk; freedom@bnp.org.uk; deputy-chairman@bnp.org.uk
Subject: A message from Ian Dawson
Dear Mr. Griffin, Mr Darby & Mr Wingfield
I am writing to you to make you aware that any attempts to link me in with the recent leaking of the BNP membership list will be met with legal action. I have already, via Adrian Davies, managed to line up a barrister to represent me on a no-win, no-fee basis, should I feel that things have been taken too far.
The fact that the membership list was published is an absolute disgrace. I wholeheartedly condemn anyone who would do such a thing and the deed in my opinion is unforgivable. There seems to be a trend for the three of you, plus others, to suggest that one of the 'December Rebels' have done it and that we are all to blame. Although I can't speak for other human beings I can certainly speak for myself and I can assure you that I have not done it, nor would I ever do it under any circumstances. The infatuation you seem to have with 'group responsibility' i.e. accuse one and then say it is them all, is a very dangerous infatuation to have.
I have had many phone calls from people in Yorkshire about this incident. They are all backing me and the fact that they phone me for guidance as to how to handle the abusive phone calls they are now getting shows the high regard in which they hold me. I of course tell them to record all calls and threats and pass the details onto the police. I have even directed them to Lee Barnes' blog for the correct procedures, despite the man being an otherwise complete embarrassment for the Party.
Please also remember that although at least two of you have linked me in with everything that has gone wrong since December 2007, I can sincerely state that I have never set up a blog attacking fellow BNP members, I have never sent out one single fake bulletin to BNP members, and I have never leaked the BNP membership list. I am 100% confident that I will clear my name of all allegations against me and I am very sure that when I am cleared I will be seeking compensation for the outrageous damage done to my previously unblemished reputation. Considering my innocence I have had to endure a damn rough ride and I can assure that when things settle down I will be, through the courts, seeking justice against those who sought to destroy me.
I have only ever had the interests of British Nationalism at heart and despite what I read on a nearly daily basis from a small selection of my former colleagues, I remain fully committed to the ideals of the BNP and its members.
I am genuine person and I am genuinely serious when I say that I will not stop until my name has been cleared and I have my reputation restored. I sincerely hope that you will heed my words and not make this situation any worse.
Yours sincerely
Ian Dawson
Is he bovvered?
Griffin tells the Daily Star:
"The fact that we have teachers and doctors and women that knit, it’s a fantastic event politically for us."
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/59328/Death-threats-sack-for-outed-BNP-supporters/
Good to know that Cyclops cares about the welfare of the most vulnerable members like elderly ladies! What a complete and utter ba5tard.
Hazel Blears is doing another 'politicians must change or BNP grows' stunt.
Since it's obvious the BNP has intentionally no chance whatever of any power under its present leadership - as she perfectly well understands as an insider - we must look for the scam.
The scam is a small amount of media prominent progress for the BNP which in reality has no effect on anything - like the election of an MEP following publicity due to the BNP list being planted. Accompanied by the false implication that Labour might change its populatiom replacement policy - something also touted by Woolas.
Result - Labour gets more votes and the pretence is maintained that people have a genuine alternative to the LibLabCon party if they are desperate.
Dear Ian,
You have no need to clearer your name, you are and always have been seen by everyone who has met you as a decent honest and genuine gentleman. Yo were also a great asset to the party, as you will be again very soon I hope.
From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)
"Forget AFA. Forget Searchlight. We are being shafted by The Enemy From Within. "
Agreed, SL and UAF have nothing to gain by publishing the list, they like to keep their info closer to their chests. Only one winner out of the debacle and thats Griffin and the massive publicity and donations he is scouping up. Anyway he will need the money for the compensation claims members should now be filing against Griffin for his breach of the data protection act by failing to secure sensitive data, him and the current data protection officer who is Michaela MacKenzie, the registered office held on the Information Commission's site is:
1 CHUBB CLOSE
WARMLEY
BRISTOL
BS30 7BP
Thats where claims should be sent. A minimum claim of £5000 for inconveniece, extra security measures such as locks, lighting, alarms etc. BNP might settle out of court for half that amount but Griffin must take responsibility for this mess and pay up.
Chris.
I'm amazed in this present climate you have been barred from a pub.Six of us known BNP members went into a local pub last week where the manager (a Spanish guy), refused to let us use his pub for a meeting. He was a bit off, this was about a year ago and we hadn't been in since, anyway the pub was empty and he nearly fell over himself being friendly. I felt quite sorry for him, times are hard. Your landlady obviously hasn't yet felt the cold wind of recession.
Ian Dawson, Steve Blake and Kenny Smith have all denied their involvement and the one-eyed prick at Welshpool HQ has publicly said Dawson and Blake are no longer in the frame and is narrowing the leak to Sadie and-or Kenny.
What are the odds is wasnt any of the above but someone much closer to the fat servant of the state that is Nicholarse Griffin? Someone he thinks is on his side but is really a long term State plant and has wormed his way to be Griffin's mouthpiece?
Ian Dawson, Steve Blake and Kenny Smith have all denied their involvement and the one-eyed prick at Welshpool HQ has publicly said Dawson and Blake are no longer in the frame and is narrowing the leak to Sadie and-or Kenny.
What are the odds is wasnt any of the above but someone much closer to the fat servant of the state that is Nicholarse Griffin? Someone he thinks is on his side but is really a long term State plant and has wormed his way to be Griffin's mouthpiece?
The person concerned had no visible means of support in the 1990s but a nice lifestyle.
Interesting question is whether Griffin knows about the person concerned and reasons he is doing an implicit deal with the state by accepting it.
Or is it more overt? I favour the former.
Anyone know who manages the membership list? Is it in fact the MI5 agent? That would be perfect.
Anyone know who manages the membership list? Is it in fact the MI5 agent? That would be perfect.
23 November 2008 15:34
Tina Wingfield manages the list, and I doubt very much that she's
MI5. It would make good sense for Griffin to accuse her though, as he hates Martin Wingfield, and wants to chop the Voice of Freedom and hand it all to Collett. This of course would mean Griffin and Collett would own all the publishing and printing, and give them both a fat cheque each month.
Does anyone know the names of the accused, or are they just the rebels on Griffins hit list?
Then who has Tina Wingfield given access to the list? Is it true or merely to put people off the scent?
Then who has Tina Wingfield given access to the list? Is it true or merely to put people off the scent?
What makes you think Tina would give access to the list? In my dealing with her she was always thorough, and above board.
Trust me, the leaker is Griffin, but he'd have got two idiots to do the work for him. Collett, and Golding.
Not suggesting Tina Wingfield had done anything wrong.
Asking who she gave the list to as part of her duties. Griffin obviously but who else? If no one else then who did Griffin give it to?
Whoever leaked the list must have obtained it somehow and the obvious method is that someone received it with Griffin's approval.
It's obvious that if you are looking for a leak the first port of call is who obtained the document. The second is possible hacking of a computer or a lost disc.
Logical yes? No offence intended to Tina Wingfield.
"It's obvious that if you are looking for a leak the first port of call is who obtained the document. The second is possible hacking of a computer or a lost disc.
Logical yes? No offence intended to Tina Wingfield.
24 November 2008 08:18"
The membership list isn't held on a PC that ever goes online. So, that rules out hacking.
You also need to know that a name and address were added to the list that only Griffin, Collett, and Golding knew about. What do those 3 have in common? Directors of Publicity at some point in their lives, and Collett currently is. Colletts address on that list is fake, why? Didn't he want crap phonecalls like everyone else? His humour is also displayed by his name, when he calls himself the Deputy Chairman.
The BNP members have been had, but Griffin knows that after 2 weeks none of you will be bothered by it. The BNP will be out of the closet, the public will swoon over the membership size, albeit false, and the compensation being claimed by people will make the story run and run while the beginning of the week saw donations soar to cover his legal costs againsts the rebels.
Well Well well.... I've happened upon a meeting of the 'infamous' bull-shitters, conspirators and dissenters club.
Get over it!!
LOL
According to Thurrock BNP, a BNP supporter friend of Collett and Darby on Facebook was involved in a plot to firebomb BNP members.
http://thurrockpatriots.blogspot.com/2008/11/facebook-bnp-supporter-linked-to.html
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